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Subject: Re: [office-accessibility] Fw: ODF Accessibility SC Minutes - April 10


Can we discuss an alternative meeting schedule?
It is hard for us to attend the midnight calls regularly...
Could we set up one global meeting every month at 10 am edt/est or 9 am
edt/est?
It would be greatly appreciated if we can discuss this topic.
(But I will not be able to make it today.)
Thanks.

Chieko.



                                                                           
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Hi gang,

So it sounds like Mondays are our day, starting Monday April 28th.  Same
time as before, 8am PT / 11am ET / 5pm CET / midnght Japan

Any objections?


Peter Korn
Accessibility Architect,
Sun Microsystems, Inc.

      I agree with Malte -- this is a perfect time for me, except the 21st.


      -Mike

      Mike Paciello
      Cell: +1.603.566.7713



            -----Original Message-----
            From: Malte.Timmermann@Sun.COM [
            mailto:Malte.Timmermann@Sun.COM.]
            Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 4:34 AM
            To: Peter Korn
            Cc: mpaciello@paciellogroup.com; 'Richard Schwerdtfeger';
            office-accessibility@lists.oasis-open.org; 'Pete Brunet'
            Subject: Re: [office-accessibility] Fw: ODF Accessibility SC
            Minutes - April 10

            That date/time would be perfect! :)

            Probably I can't make it next Monday, but in general that
            time would be much appreciated.

            Malte.

            Peter Korn wrote, On 18.04.08 01:04:

                  Hi Mike, all,

                  8am PT / 11am ET on Mondays work for me.  Shall we look
                  to have our
                  next meeting on Monday April 21st?


                  Regards,

                  Peter Korn
                  Accessibility Architect,
                  Sun Microsystems, Inc.


                        Rich -

                        Monday's work for me.

                        Peter?

                        Mike Paciello
                        Cell: +1.603.566.7713




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                            *From:* Richard Schwerdtfeger [
                        mailto:schwer@us.ibm.com.]
                            *Sent:* Wednesday, April 16, 2008 6:51 PM
                            *To:* mpaciello@paciellogroup.com;
                        Peter.korn@sun.com
                            *Cc:* office-accessibility@lists.oasis-open.org
                        ; Pete Brunet
                            *Subject:* RE: [office-accessibility] Fw: ODF
                        Accessibility SC
                            Minutes - April 10

                            Mike,

                            The only time left for me then would be
                        Monday's at

            10am Central

                            or 11am Eastern. The problem is synching with
                        Japan

            and PST unless

                            we went to an evening call which I am not that
                        crazy about.

                            Peter, how does this work for you on Mondays?

                            Rich


                            Rich Schwerdtfeger
                            Distinguished Engineer, SWG Accessibility
                        Architect/Strategist
                            Chair, IBM Accessibility Architecture Review
                        Board
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                            RE: [office-accessibility] Fw: ODF
                        Accessibility SC Minutes -
                            April 10




                            Thanks Pete.

                            BTW folks -- Both Thursday and Friday mornings
                        are bad for me.
                            Again, I don't want to stand in the way of
                        progress for the
                            committee. These happen to be two mornings
                        during the

            week when I

                            have standing meetings between 9:00 am - 12:30
                        pm EST. Before
                            and/or after, I can attend.

                            regards,

                            Mike

                            Mike Paciello
                            Cell: +1.603.566.7713




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                            *From:* Pete Brunet [mailto:brunet@us.ibm.com.]
                        *
                            Sent:* Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:14 AM*
                            To:* office-accessibility@lists.oasis-open.org*
                            Subject:* [office-accessibility] Fw: ODF
                        Accessibility

            SC Minutes

                            - April 10


                            Resending minutes with one edit: changed action
                        item

            8f from Pete

                            to Janina (Janina was the original assignee for
                        that action
                        item.)

                            1) Rollcall/Scribe - Attending: Rich, Peter K,
                        Steve,

            Malte, Pete

                            B - Regrets: Janina, Chieko Hiro - Scribe Pete
                        B

                            2) Piror minutes approved

                            3) New meeting time - Mike P not present,
                        Thursday bad

            for him -

                            Let's try for 10 am on Fridays

                            4) Training guidelines - deferred until larger
                        group on call

                            5) 1.2 spec work items
                            - Current schedule likely to move out about a
                        month
                            a) How does ODF do language tagging of a range
                        of text? Font
                            attributes? And how best to tag a string as
                        "Grade 2 English
                            Braille", vs. "music Braille in German".
                            *** Action item Rich - investigate how ODF does


            language tagging

                            for a range of text, e.g. how to handle
                        language switching
                            b) Hiro - Write proposed modification to 8.1.1
                        to add

            caption-id

                            for table, and 9.2.15.2 to include tables -
                        <ref
                            name="common-draw-caption-id-attlist"/>
                            *** Rich will check with Hiro to see if he has

            proposed language

                            c) Hiro to provide more information related to
                        table

            headers (from




            http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office-accessibility/ema


                        il/archives/200711/msg00007.html)

                            *** Pending Hiro
                            d) Address David's concern that headings were
                        made

            available in an

                            easy to discern way. ... H2s followed by H1s
                        etc. He

            obtained that

                            structure from an additional file. Came back in
                        an OOo

            update, and

                            that information was no longer available. Was
                        Dave relying on
                            optional attributes that are no longer there,
                        or did

            OOo break the

                            spec.?
                            *** Action item Peter K - check to see if this
                        is a

            bug in OpenOffice

                            e) Assign team members
                            *** wait for Hiro to attend

                            6) 1.1 Guidelines work items - Peter K sent in
                        text

            and is waiting

                            for response from TC
                            *** no response from TC yet

                            7) 1.2 Guidelines work items
                            a) Rich to find deadlines for ODF 1.2; also to
                        verify

            whether TC

                            would like to see our 1.2 guidelines doc
                        delivered at same time
                            (in same "bundle") as 1.2 spec.
                            *** pending
                            b) Pete Brunet: Provide guidelines as to how to
                        supply tracking
                            change information to ATs. Malte & Pete &
                        others have

            been looking

                            at how to expose document revision information
                        in platform a11y
                            APIs, so they can be exposed via IAcc2 and
                        ATK/AT-SPI. Are
                            converging on a specification.
                            *** MT we don't tell implementers how to use an
                        a11y

            API - PK we

                            could add a checklist showing implementers what
                        they

            need to expose

                            *** Action item Peter K - create text for this

                            8) Miscellaneous Action items
                            a) [unassigned] Can OOo be a good codebase for
                        Marc to

            start from

                            for the Icon (which is ARM based)
                            *** not an issue for this group, remove from
                        action items
                            b) Pete B to set up a meeting at CSUN around
                        the revision API
                            *** this didn't happen - but good progress has
                        been

            made on email

                            c) Should guidelines provide any direction on
                        animations?
                            *** unassigned - missed covering this action
                        item

            during the meeting

                            d) Modify next version of accessibility
                        guidelines to ensure
                            applications respond to system font and color
                        settings.
                            *** Action item Peter K to develop text
                            e) Add wording to the next revision of the
                        accessibility
                            guidelines to allow control of the animation
                        rate of

            images in a

                            presentation
                            *** Action item Rich S and Dave P
                            f) Modify accessibility guidelines to state how
                        common field
                            attributes (section 6.7 of the ODF 1.2 spec.)
                        should

            be supplied

                            to the AT. The field attributes would indicate
                        whether

            something

                            were a boolean, gregorian date, etc.
                            *** Action item Janina
                            g) Create new wording for reload delay (section
                        3.13.2) which
                            would allow user agents to control the reload
                        delay

            and to state

                            the WCAG requirements for content refreshing to


            prevent seizures.

                            We need wording to provide control over
                        flashing Here are some
                            related links


            http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#general-thresholddef





            http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20-20060427/#seizure-d


                        oes-not-violate

                            *** Rich to work with Janina
                            h) Pete Brunet: Provide guidelines as to how to
                        supply tracking
                            change information to ATs.
                            *** A new interface is being developed in the
                        Open A11y groups
                            i) Provide wording in the to address dynamic,

            asynchronous updates

                            There are several topics in the specs related
                        to "asynchronous
                            automatic update" of contents or values.
                        Automatic

            updates should

                            be carefully presented to assistive
                        technologies through
                            accessibility APIs. Documents are becoming more
                        dynamic- async
                            updates - some examples: linked tables,
                        database ranges,
                            scripting, text sections, DDE connections.
                            *** Action item Hiro
                            *
                            Pete Brunet*

                            IBM Accessibility Architecture and Development
                            11501 Burnet Road, MS 9022E004, Austin, TX
                        78758
                            Voice: (512) 838-4594, Cell: (512) 689-4155
                            Ionosphere: WS4G






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