OIC TC 2009-07-29 Meeting Minutes [corrected]

["Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>]

This version corrects a production error in the minutes of the 2009-07-29 call.  Louis Suarez-Potts was listed in both the Members in Attendance and the Members Absent lists.  Louis was in attendance.  These minutes, with that correction, were approved on the 2009-08-12 OIC TC Meeting call.

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OIC TC 2009-07-29 COORDINATION CALL

Date:  Wednesday, 29 July 2009
Time:  13:30 - 14:30 UT

1. LOGISTICS
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The chat room: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/oic (doesn't count as attendance)

The call-in numbers: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/200903/msg00017.html 
   *** NOTE: A New Pass Code has been assigned for these calls.
Meeting agendas also provide the pass codes and the call-in numbers:
<http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/200907/msg00023.html>

The action items (log-in required):
  http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oic/members/action_items.php

1.1 ROLL CALL AND QUORUM CHECK
The roll call confirmed presence of a quorum with 8 of 9 Voting Members in attendance (5 required to satisfy >50% quorum requirement).

    MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE

    * Bart Hanssens, Fedict (Chair)
      Don Harbison, IBM
    * Mingfei Jia, IBM
    * Robert Weir, IBM
      Andreas Guelzow, Individual
    * Dennis Hamilton, Individual (secretary)
    * Stephen Peront, Microsoft
    * Alan Clark, Novell
    * Andrew Rist, Oracle
      Bernd Eilers, Sun Microsystems
    * Daniel Rentz, Sun Microsystems
    + Louis Suarez-Potts, Sun Microsystems

      [* = Voting Member at start of meeting
       + = becoming Voting Member at conclusion of meeting (one)]

    MEMBERS ABSENT

      Charles Schulz, Ars Aperta
      Xiaohong Dong, Beijing Redflag Chinese 2000 Software
      Peter Junge, Beijing Redflag Chinese 2000 Software
      Alex Wang, Beijing Sursen International 
    * Jeremy Allison, Google Inc.
      Pierre Ducroquet, Individual
      Thorsten Zachmann, Individual
      Doug Mahugh, Microsoft
      Eric Patterson, Microsoft
      Tom Rabon, Red Hat
      Mathias Bauer, Sun Microsystems
      Michael Brauer, Sun Microsystems
      Bernd Eilers, Sun Microsystems
      Svante Schubert, Sun Microsystems
      Jerry Smith, US Department of Defense

      [* = Voting Member at start of meeting
       - = Voting Member becoming non-voting Member at end of meeting (none)]

1.2 ACCEPTANCE OF JULY 1 MEETING MINUTES (approved without objection)
<http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/200907/msg00008.html>

Note: The July 15 meeting failed to achieve a quorum, and the report to that effect was not offered for approval:
<http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/200907/msg00017.html>
[Secretary Note: We should probably approve these, since they represent official attendance records.]

1.3 ACCEPTANCE OF TODAY'S AGENDA (approved without objection)
<http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/200907/msg00023.html>


2. STATUS OF ACTION ITEMS

#0001 OpenDocument Fellowship and Intel permission to use tests.  We are still waiting to hear back from Intel.  Rob Weir will ping them.

#0015 Template Scenario: Dennis says he is working on it but moving ahead very slowly right now

#0026 Test Scenarios - How to Submit Material.  Work on that is forthcoming.

#0027 Test Scenarios - [Not sure any report?]

#0029 Virtual Plugfest: Harbison is looking into possible use of new social-media tools that IBM has.  

#0030 OOoCon2009 ODF/Interop: Report of discussion of a separate plugfest room or location near OOoCon2009, to be vendor neutral around ODF and not restricted or focused on OO.o.  Bart expects less emphasis on presentations and more on working.  Rob expects there will be an ODF track on the conference itself, with the usual 45 minute talks and also lighting talks.  Call for Papers end date is now 2009-08-15.  

#0031 UOF-ODF: Discussions in-progress.  Mingfei Jia and Peter Junge should be added to the Action Item as working with the UOF group.  The idea, from Louis, is to promote the UOF-ODF Interoperability work to an international body such as OASIS, so that peer-to-peer coordination, harmonization, etc., can be done more efficiently, if desired.  We reminded ourselves that the OIC TC is interesting in interoperability among ODF implementations, not interoperability with all formats.  
  We do not have clarity on what the initial UOF compliance requirements are with regard to products having to support ODF to be acceptable in China.  

3. STATE OF INTEROPERABILITY

Rob posted the second draft and Bart has posted a marked-up version with his comments.  Rob says he will take comments in any form they are given to him.  Feedback is desirable before Wednesday, 2009-08-05 before Rob prepares the next draft.


3. STATE OF INTEROPERABILITY

3.1 Comments Received on the OIC Comment List
<http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic-comment/200906/maillist.html>.  
We discussed the use of the ISO terminology definition of interoperability and although the language is a little abstract, it is applicable to what we intend by interoperability here.  Whether there are specific usage with regard to the specification of standards is not applicable to us and is a matter for OASIS and ISO JTC1 to determine.    


4. APPLICATION SCENARIOS

4.1 Application Scenario Testing

There are wd02 of an Application Scenario Testing Template (.ott document) and an Application Scenario Testing guide.  The idea is to develop these documents further and achieve a formally-approved OIC TC Committee Specification.  

<http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=33193>
<http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=33196>

4.2 ODF 1.1 Interop Issues in JIRA

The JIRA Issue Tracker is now being used for items:
<http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/OIC>.  

[Secretary note: These seem to often be action items rather than issues against documents, and we may need to perfect our use of the JIRA issue types and the workflow stages. - dh:]

5. NEXT PLUGFEST

It appears that the next ODF interoperability plugfest will be in conjunction with OOoCon2009 in Orvieto.

6. ROUND TABLE

It was mentioned that the Testing Assertion Guidelines TC has a Committee Draft in public review.  The deadline is in August [added: actually 2009-09-07, per <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/200907/msg00034.html>].  Dennis will post information [done].

6. FUTURE MEETING PLANNING
The next call is Wednesday, 2009-08-12.

We ended the call at 14:27Z.  

Respectfully submitted,

 - Dennis E. Hamilton
   OIC TC Secretary


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