OIC TC 2009-08-26 Meeting Minutes

["Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>]

OIC TC 2009-08-26 COORDINATION CALL

Date:  Wednesday, 26 August 2009
Time:  13:30 - 14:30 UT

1. LOGISTICS
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The chat room: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/oic (doesn't count as attendance)

The call-in numbers: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/200903/msg00017.html 
   *** NOTE: A New Pass Code has been assigned for these calls.
Meeting agendas also provide the pass codes and the call-in numbers:
<http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/200908/msg00016.html>

The action items (log-in required):
  http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oic/members/action_items.php

1.1 ROLL CALL AND QUORUM CHECK
The roll call confirmed presence of a quorum with 6 of 11 Voting Members in attendance (6 required to satisfy >50% quorum requirement).

    MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE

    * Bart Hanssens, Fedict (Chair)
    * Don Harbison, IBM
    * Mingfei Jia, IBM
    * Robert Weir, IBM
    * Andreas Guelzow, Individual
    * Dennis Hamilton, Individual (secretary)
      Patrick Strader, Microsoft (new member)

      [* = Voting Member at start of meeting (six)
       + = becoming Voting Member at conclusion of meeting (none)]

    MEMBERS ABSENT

      Charles Schulz, Ars Aperta
      Xiaohong Dong, Beijing Redflag Chinese 2000 Software
      Peter Junge, Beijing Redflag Chinese 2000 Software
      Alex Wang, Beijing Sursen International 
      Jeremy Allison, Google Inc.
      Pierre Ducroquet, Individual
      Thorsten Zachmann, Individual
      Doug Mahugh, Microsoft
      Eric Patterson, Microsoft
    * Alan Clark, Novell
    * Andrew Rist, Oracle
      Tom Rabon, Red Hat
      Mathias Bauer, Sun Microsystems
      Michael Brauer, Sun Microsystems
    * Bernd Eilers, Sun Microsystems
    - Daniel Rentz, Sun Microsystems
      Svante Schubert, Sun Microsystems
    - Louis Suarez-Potts, Sun Microsystems
      Jerry Smith, US Department of Defense

      [* = Voting Member at start and end of meeting (three)
       - = Voting Member becoming non-voting Member at end of meeting (two)]

1.2 ACCEPTANCE OF PREVIOUS MEETING MINUTES

The August 12 meeting minutes were approved without objection.
<http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/200908/msg00014.html>


1.3 ACCEPTANCE OF TODAY'S AGENDA (approved without objection)
<http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/200908/msg00016.html>


2. STATUS OF ACTION ITEMS

#0001 OpenDocument Fellowship/Intel Contact.  Rob has made contact with Intel and they said they will look into our request for permission to use the test documents.

#0015 Template Scenario: Dennis is deferring his work on this until the Specification Analysis and other parts of the wiki are stabilized following breaking changes made when the wiki software was updated on August 12.  (See the thread starting from <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/200908/msg00018.html>.)

#0026 Test Scenarios - No report.  Stephen Peront has left the OIC TC.  These are taken by Doug Mahugh for now.  
#0027 Test Scenarios - No report.  Stephen Peront has left the OIC TC.  These are taken by Doug Mahugh for now.

#0028 Virtual Plugfest: Don Harbison reported that the provision of some IBM technology for hosting virtual plugfests is still under internal discussion and there is nothing more to report at this time.

#0029 OOoCon2009 ODF/Interop.  In addition to the two-day ODF plugfest, there may be an ODF track.  One idea that Rob reported involves a keynote presentation and brief panel discussion with chairs of the three OASIS ODF-related TCs: ODF Adoption, ODF, and OIC.
The OOoCon2009 proposals are due on Friday 08-28.  Bart reported that he has reserved a place to make proposals also.

#0031 UOF-ODF.  No report available.

#0032 [*New Item*] Arrange to have the wiki fixed after breaking changes upgrading to version 1.6.  Dennis took the action to have this resolved by 2009-09-02.



3. STATE OF INTEROPERABILITY

Document version: 
<http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/group_public/document.php?document_id=33929>

Rob requests a 1.5 week review of the content that is there.  After receiving any comments in that period, Rob will make an editorial pass and look at advancing the document to a TC approval status.

Comments can be by any of JIRA issues, posts to the OIC TC List, and posting of change-marked versions of the draft. 



4. APPLICATION SCENARIOS

Current document draft:
<http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/group_public/document.php?document_id=33939>

Bart revised the document to use ISO conformance language.

A ballot for conduct of an eBallot to approve the document as a Committee Draft was requested.  The conduct of a ballot that runs to the next meeting was approved without objection.

5. ODF 1.1 INTEROP PROFILE

Current document draft:
<http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oic/document.php?document_id=33688>
[NB: A later revision was posted subsequent to the meeting.]

There was substantial discussion about the level of authority and extent of review that should be brought to this document and any others of this kind.  There was also discussion about high-priority areas of ODF (determined perhaps by our JIRA and from plugfests) and grabbing for low-hanging fruit.

Bart would like to combine a practical approach with a little more formal approach.  He was thinking of a document or a wiki that is a compendium of interoperability guidelines.

We discussed whether this should be a number of focused documents or a single compendium.  The compendium approach would involve something like working drafts on topics that can be taken to public review individually and then consolidated into the compendium which is reissued on, say, every six months.  

ACTION REQUESTED: Look the document over and discuss it on the list, on the agenda of future meetings, etc.

6. UPDATE ON ODF PLUGFEST IN ORVIETO ITALY
We are having the plugfest on 2-3 November in Orvieto.  [It was observed on the last call that arrivals will be on Sunday November 1, observed as All Saints Day in the European Catholic countries, including Italy.  Monday, November 2 is All Souls Day and holiday schedules may be in effect for local travel and accommodations.]
  There was an organizing call on August 18 and there will be another on September 2.
  The plugfest is still in search of scenarios and interesting things to test.  There are a few sessions left according to the plugfest wiki:
<http://plugtest.opendocsociety.org/doku.php?id=plugfests:200911_orvieto:info>.


7. ROUND TABLE

Discussion of the breaking changes that resulted from the wiki upgrade happened at the beginning of the call.  

Dennis asked whether Stephen Peront had held any liaison memberships from the OIC TC.  He had not.

On IDABC and ODEF, Bart is waiting for an update in the next week or so, and we many see some activity.  Rob wondered whether they would send someone to the plugfest and thought there might be a study on the nature of administrative documents and requirements for those.  They may have a member-states survey of features used in administrative documents that would be great for basing scenarios around. 

It was also mentioned that an ODF Workshop was being held in Brazil at this very time.  It will be useful to have feedback from that.

9. FUTURE MEETING PLANNING

The next call is Wednesday, 2009-09-09.

10. ADJOURNMENT

The meeting was adjourned at 14:26Z.

Respectfully submitted,

 - Dennis E. Hamilton
   OIC TC Secretary