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Subject: Re: [orms] Charter Clarification Ballot


I just brought this issue to the attention of the committee tracking  
IT issues to add to the list of known issues.

regards, Frederick

Frederick Hirsch
Nokia



On Jun 6, 2008, at 4:57 PM, ext Peter Davis wrote:

> On Jun 6, 2008, at 4:49 PM, Frederick Hirsch wrote:
>
>> A charter clarification vote requires 2/3 of all TC Member  
>> eligible to vote to vote in favor
>>
>> Kavi shows percentages of those who voted.
>>
>> Thus 16 eligible members voted (out of 20).
>>
>> 13 voted in favor which is 13/20 or .65, 65% or one vote short of  
>> 2/3.
>
> Right. i miss-quoted the ballot, 13 not 16
>
>> Kavi shows the percentage of those who voted, or 13/16 which is 81%
>>
>> It would be nice if Kavi would display more meaningful information  
>> depending on the type of vote.
>
> agreed, and it is very misleading and forces one to role-out ones  
> calculator.  sigh.
>
> thanks for the clarification.
>
> =peterd
>
>>
>> regards, Frederick
>>
>> Frederick Hirsch
>> Nokia
>>
>> "Special Majority Vote" is a TC vote in which at least 2/3 (two  
>> thirds) of the Voting Members vote " yes" and no more than 1/4  
>> (one fourth) of the Voting Members vote "no". These numbers are  
>> based on the total number of Voting Members, regardless of the  
>> number of Voting Members present in the meeting.
>>
>> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.php#charterClarification
>>
>>
>> On Jun 6, 2008, at 4:39 PM, ext Peter Davis wrote:
>>
>>> (I was waiting for the meeting minutes to be published for  
>>> Wednesday's call... but i've not seen them arrive yet either to  
>>> me, nor the OASIS TC mail archive)
>>>
>>> I believe I heard it indicated that the ballot for charter  
>>> clarifications [1] did not pass.  Was this in fact stated?  If  
>>> so, I am puzzled, for [1] indicates:
>>>
>>> 	"This vote requires at least 2/3 of all TC voting members to  
>>> vote in the affirmative"
>>>
>>> and the ballot results indicate:
>>>
>>> 	Yes:	16 of 20		81%
>>>  Abstain:		  1 of 20		   5%
>>> 	 No:		  3 of 20		15%
>>>
>>>
>>> (the last time I checked, 66.6% < 81%) :-)
>>>
>>> I know there were roster issues which may have influenced this  
>>> count, and perhaps that is the basis for the stated outcome  
>>> differing from the ballot page.  Could clarification be made on  
>>> this, please?
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> =peterd
>>>
>>> [1] http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/orms/ballot.php? 
>>> id=1474
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