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regards=20
Gordon=20
-----Original Message-----=20
From: Carl-Johan Wilen [mailto:Carl-Johan.Wilen@saab.se]=20
Sent: 09 June 2005 09:27=20
To: Barker, Sean (UK); mats.nilsson@fmv.se; plcs@lists.oasis-open.org=20
Subject: RE: [plcs] Groups - ref_data_procedure_v001.doc uploaded=20
Sean,=20
You are right. The final distribution and archiving of the documents =
should be done in pdf (there are stronger movements than PLCS which will =
support that they can be read in the future). Word is however an =
excellent engine during the revision process.
/Carl=20
-----Original Message-----=20
From: Barker, Sean (UK) [mailto:sean.barker@baesystems.com]=20
Sent: den 9 juni 2005 10:23=20
To: Carl-Johan Wilen; mats.nilsson@fmv.se; plcs@lists.oasis-open.org=20
Subject: RE: [plcs] Groups - ref_data_procedure_v001.doc uploaded=20
The main objection to the use of Word is the long term retention of the =
data. If the standard is to be used over the long term, and the document =
forms part of the standard or supporting information, it should probably =
be stores as PDF, as there is significant effort being made in the =
archiving community to ensure that pdf files will be readable long term.
Sean Barker=20
ATC Filton=20
0117 302 8184=20
-----Original Message-----=20
From: Carl-Johan Wilen [mailto:Carl-Johan.Wilen@saab.se]=20
Sent: 08 June 2005 15:39=20
To: mats.nilsson@fmv.se; plcs@lists.oasis-open.org=20
Subject: RE: [plcs] Groups - ref_data_procedure_v001.doc uploaded=20
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I know that some people love XML and data "hidden" in databases, but =
there is nothing like a Word document!=20
Every one can read and print it. You can file it on your system the way =
you want. You can comment on it and even comment on comments and the =
author can easily summarize the comments and create the final document =
for approval.
Well, let\s go for Mats' proposal. And define a simple registration =
number series for PLCS TC document.=20
(Eg PLCS-2005-0001-001:00 =3D doc 0001 for Year 2005, Version 001, 00 =
=3D approved and released)=20
Regards=20
Carl=20
-----Original Message-----=20
From: mats.nilsson@fmv.se [mailto:mats.nilsson@fmv.se]=20
Sent: den 8 juni 2005 13:51...=20
To: plcs@lists.oasis-open.org=20
Subject: SV: [plcs] Groups - ref_data_procedure_v001.doc uploaded=20
Hi all,=20
This is a comment on the procedure used by Rob to prepare the ballot =
document.=20
I firmly believe that,=20
1- Creating the information which should be balloted in DEXlib.=20
2- Copying it from DEXlib and pasting it into a Word-document.=20
3- Presenting the document for ballot.=20
should be stated as a standard ballot procedure within the OASIS PLCS =
TC, because it makes sure that the information exists within DEXlib and =
isn't lost in a document in the OASIS archive.
The author/"ballot-manager" is of course responsable to correct DEXlib =
later according to the ballot descision.=20
This procedure should only be used for ballots regarding information =
which should be inside DEXlib (e.g. not for OASIS PLCS TC organisation =
issues).
Regards,=20
Mats=20
.........................................................................=
.....=20
Mats Nilsson - KC Logistik=20
FMV - F=F6rsvarets materielverk=20
Swedish Defense Materiel Administration=20
S-115 88 Stockholm, Sweden=20
tel: +46 8 782 47 24 mobile: +46 70 267 47 24=20
fax: +46 8 782 65 64 e-mail: mats.nilsson@fmv.se=20
-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----=20
Fr=E5n: rob.bodington@eurostep.com [mailto:rob.bodington@eurostep.com]=20
Skickat: den 7 juni 2005 17:43=20
Till: plcs@lists.oasis-open.org=20
=C4mne: [plcs] Groups - ref_data_procedure_v001.doc uploaded=20
I have just uploaded this document in response to:=20
ACTION 15/3: Rob Bodington to cut down reference data procedures to=20
essential information. Secretariat to send out for ballot for voting=20
members only. Send ballot copy to entire PLCS membership.=20
The document outlines the procedure for developing and publishing PLCS=20
reference data.=20
The master document is held on DExlib under the help section and has =
been=20
pasted into this Word document for ease of access.=20
-- Dr Rob Bodington=20
The document named ref_data_procedure_v001.doc has been submitted by Dr =
Rob=20
Bodington to the OASIS Product Life Cycle Support (PLCS) TC document=20
repository.=20
Document Description:=20
This document outlines the procedure for developing and publishing PLCS=20
reference data.=20
The master document is held on DExlib under the help section and has =
been=20
pasted into this Word document for ease of access.=20
View Document Details:=20
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/plcs/document.php?document_i=
d=3D12993=20
Download Document:=20
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data_procedure_v001.doc=20
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class=3D907332911-09062005>Gordon and Rob has presented the right=20
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D907332911-09062005>Regards</SPAN>,</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2> Mats</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DTahoma=20
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<BR><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Mats Nilsson =96 KC Logistik =
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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>Fr=E5n:</B> Gordon Robb =
[mailto:gor@lsc.co.uk]=20
<BR><B>Skickat:</B> den 9 juni 2005 11:07<BR><B>Till:</B> 'Carl-Johan =
Wilen';=20
Barker, Sean (UK); Nilsson, Mats maxnn;=20
plcs@lists.oasis-open.org<BR><B>=C4mne:</B> RE: [plcs] Groups -=20
ref_data_procedure_v001.doc uploaded<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<P><FONT size=3D2>Gentlefolk,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>Are we not =
loosing the=20
thread of the process.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>From what I understand, =
the=20
information(in draft format(specification/process/procedure/etc)) is =
uploaded=20
onto DEXLib as an XML file by the author, then converted into a =
'readable=20
format' for distribution via the OASIS web site for appraisal and =
approval, then=20
subsequently uploaded back into DEXlib as a OASIS TC approved XML file. =
This=20
file will be the master. The means of transmitting the appraisal =
doc must=20
be in a 'most used format' be it MS/openoffice/Adobe generated, it =
should never=20
be deemed be more than appraisal information for the master XML file on=20
DEXlib.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>regards</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>Gordon</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>From:=20
Carl-Johan Wilen [<A=20
href=3D"mailto:Carl-Johan.Wilen@saab.se";>mailto:Carl-Johan.Wilen@saab.se<=
/A>]</FONT>=20
<BR><FONT size=3D2>Sent: 09 June 2005 09:27</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>To: Barker,=20
Sean (UK); mats.nilsson@fmv.se; plcs@lists.oasis-open.org</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>Subject: RE: [plcs] Groups - ref_data_procedure_v001.doc =
uploaded</FONT>=20
</P><BR>
<P><FONT size=3D2>Sean,</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>You are right. The final distribution and archiving of =
the=20
documents should be done in pdf (there are stronger movements than PLCS =
which=20
will support that they can be read in the future). Word is however an =
excellent=20
engine during the revision process.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>/Carl</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>From: Barker,=20
Sean (UK) [<A=20
href=3D"mailto:sean.barker@baesystems.com";>mailto:sean.barker@baesystems.=
com</A>]=20
</FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>Sent: den 9 juni 2005 10:23</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>To:=20
Carl-Johan Wilen; mats.nilsson@fmv.se; plcs@lists.oasis-open.org</FONT>=20
<BR><FONT size=3D2>Subject: RE: [plcs] Groups - =
ref_data_procedure_v001.doc=20
uploaded</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT size=3D2>The main objection to the use of Word is the long term =
retention=20
of the data. If the standard is to be used over the long term, and the =
document=20
forms part of the standard or supporting information, it should probably =
be=20
stores as PDF, as there is significant effort being made in the =
archiving=20
community to ensure that pdf files will be readable long =
term.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>Sean Barker</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>ATC =
Filton</FONT> <BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>0117 302 8184</FONT> </P><BR>
<P><FONT size=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>From:=20
Carl-Johan Wilen [<A=20
href=3D"mailto:Carl-Johan.Wilen@saab.se";>mailto:Carl-Johan.Wilen@saab.se<=
/A>]</FONT>=20
<BR><FONT size=3D2>Sent: 08 June 2005 15:39</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>To:=20
mats.nilsson@fmv.se; plcs@lists.oasis-open.org</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>Subject:=20
RE: [plcs] Groups - ref_data_procedure_v001.doc uploaded</FONT> </P><BR>
<P><FONT=20
size=3D2> &nbs=
p; =20
*** WARNING ***</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>This mail has originated outside your =
organization,</FONT>=20
<BR><FONT size=3D2>either from an external partner or the Global =
Internet.</FONT>=20
</P>
<P><FONT size=3D2> Keep this in mind if you =
answer this=20
message.</FONT> </P><BR>
<P><FONT size=3D2>DEXlib-ers,</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>I know that some people love XML and data "hidden" in =
databases,=20
but there is nothing like a Word document!</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>Every one can=20
read and print it. You can file it on your system the way you want. You =
can=20
comment on it and even comment on comments and the author can easily =
summarize=20
the comments and create the final document for approval.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>Well, let\s go for Mats' proposal. And define a simple =
registration number series for PLCS TC document.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>(Eg PLCS-2005-0001-001:00 =3D doc 0001 for Year 2005, =
Version 001,=20
00 =3D approved and released)</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>Regards</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>Carl</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>From:=20
mats.nilsson@fmv.se [<A=20
href=3D"mailto:mats.nilsson@fmv.se";>mailto:mats.nilsson@fmv.se</A>]</FONT=
> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>Sent: den 8 juni 2005 13:51...</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>To:=20
plcs@lists.oasis-open.org</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>Subject: SV: [plcs] =
Groups -=20
ref_data_procedure_v001.doc uploaded</FONT> </P><BR><BR><BR>
<P><FONT size=3D2> Hi all,</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>This is a comment on the procedure used by Rob to =
prepare the=20
ballot document.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>I firmly believe that,</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2> 1-=20
Creating the information which should be balloted in DEXlib.</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
size=3D2> 2- Copying it from DEXlib and pasting it into a=20
Word-document.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2> 3- Presenting the =
document=20
for ballot.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>should be stated as a standard =
ballot=20
procedure within the OASIS PLCS TC, because it makes sure that the =
information=20
exists within DEXlib and isn't lost in a document in the OASIS=20
archive.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>The author/"ballot-manager" is of course responsable =
to correct=20
DEXlib later according to the ballot descision.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>This procedure should only be used for ballots =
regarding=20
information which should be inside DEXlib (e.g. not for OASIS PLCS TC=20
organisation issues).</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>Regards,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2> Mats</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>................................................................=
..............</FONT>=20
<BR><FONT size=3D2>Mats Nilsson - KC Logistik</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>FMV - F=F6rsvarets materielverk</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>Swedish Defense Materiel Administration</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>S-115 88 Stockholm, Sweden</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>tel: +46 8 782 47 24 mobile: =
+46 70 267=20
47 24</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>fax: +46 8 782 65 64 e-mail:=20
mats.nilsson@fmv.se</FONT> </P><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
<P><FONT size=3D2>-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>Fr=E5n:=20
rob.bodington@eurostep.com [<A=20
href=3D"mailto:rob.bodington@eurostep.com";>mailto:rob.bodington@eurostep.=
com</A>]</FONT>=20
</P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>Skickat: den 7 juni 2005 17:43</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>Till:=20
plcs@lists.oasis-open.org</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>=C4mne: [plcs] =
Groups -=20
ref_data_procedure_v001.doc uploaded</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>I have just uploaded this document in response =
to:</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>ACTION 15/3: Rob Bodington to cut down reference data =
procedures=20
to</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>essential information. Secretariat to =
send out=20
for ballot for voting</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>members only. Send =
ballot copy to=20
entire PLCS membership.</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT size=3D2>The document outlines the procedure for developing and =
publishing PLCS</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>reference data.</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>The master document is held on DExlib under the help section =
and has=20
been</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>pasted into this Word document for ease =
of=20
access.</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT size=3D2> -- Dr Rob Bodington</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>The document named ref_data_procedure_v001.doc has =
been=20
submitted by Dr Rob</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>Bodington to the OASIS =
Product Life=20
Cycle Support (PLCS) TC document</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>repository.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>Document Description:</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>This =
document=20
outlines the procedure for developing and publishing PLCS</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>reference data.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>The master document =
is held on=20
DExlib under the help section and has been</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>pasted into=20
this Word document for ease of access.</FONT> </P><BR><BR><BR>
<P><FONT size=3D2>View Document Details:</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/plcs/document.php?do=
cument_id=3D12993"=20
target=3D_blank>http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/plcs/documen=
t.php?document_id=3D12993</A></FONT>=20
</P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>Download Document:</FONT> </P><BR>
<P><FONT size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/plcs/download.php/12=
993/ref_data_procedure_v001.doc"=20
target=3D_blank>http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/plcs/downloa=
d.php/12993/ref_data_procedure_v001.doc</A></FONT>=20
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