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Subject: Draft Minutes from 2008-11-25 are attached


Bob Freund
bob.freund@hitachisoftware.com
Title: SCA-Assy - 2008-11-25

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SCA-Assembly TC
Teleconference

25 NOV 2008

Attendees

Present

fred carter AmberPoint Group Member
Mark Combellack Avaya, Inc. Group Member
Tom Rutt Fujitsu Limited* Group Member
Robert Freund Hitachi, Ltd. Group Member
Eric Wells Hitachi, Ltd. Group Member
Michael Beisiegel IBM Group Member
David Booz IBM Group Member
Graham Charters IBM Group Member
Mike Edwards IBM Group Member
Simon Holdsworth IBM Group Member
Dieter Koenig IBM Group Member
Jim Marino Individual Group Member
Simon Nash Individual Group Member
Jeff Estefan Jet Propulsion Laboratory:* Group Member
Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation Group Member
Khanderao Kand Oracle Corporation Group Member
Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation Group Member
Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation Group Member
Plamen Pavlov SAP AG* Group Member
Peter Walker Sun Microsystems Group Member
Scott Vorthmann TIBCO Software Inc. Group Member

Chairs

Martin Chapman
Mike Edwards

Scribe

Bob Freund

Agenda:

1. Opening

Introductions
Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing

2. Approval of minutes of SCA-Assembly TC meeting of 18th November
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/30094/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202008-11-18.html

3. Action Items:

id=2008-06-03-6 status=pending Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness
id=2008-08-26-2 status=DONE Edwards to produce text that re-considers the application of the resolution to assembly-57
id=2008-09-16-1 status=pending owner="Editors" Add text to justify no operator overloading as described in DaveB's E-mail
id=2008-10-30-4 status=pending Editors to fix pseudoschemas a/r to be consistent with the resolution that resolves Assembly-32
id=2008-10-30-5 status=pending Vorthman to create a proposal relative to potential solution for issue 5
id=2008-10-30-6 status=pending Karmarkar do the detailed work to implement the resolution to Assembly-60
id=2008-11-18-1 status=DONE Edwards to coordinate and socialize this directional decision to the resolution of Assembly-33 with the affected TCs

4. TC Administrivia

Consider status of call on December 2nd due to SCA Bindings virtual F2F meeting

5. Conformance & Test

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200811/msg00053.html

6. New Issues

ASSEMBLY-94 Remove Conversational interfaces functionality
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-94

ASSEMBLY-95 "wiredByImpl" is an invalid attribute for a Composite Reference
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-95

ASSEMBLY-96 Add a Section documenting naming conventions to the start ofthe SCA Assembly Specification
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-96

Liaison committee decision:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200811/msg00055.html

ASSEMBLY-97 Need Assembly level definition for "AllowsPassByReference"
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-97

7. Existing Issues

ASSEMBLY 57 Unresolved bindings on references
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-57

Previously resolved, but application of the resolution to the Assembly spec in CD01-Rev1 challenged.

Proposed editorial update:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200811/msg00045.html

ASSEMBLY-33: Long-Running Request-Response Operations
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-33

Latest proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200811/msg00038.html
Discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200811/msg00039.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200811/msg00041.html

ASSEMBLY-88: Possible duplicate functionality offered by constrainingType and component
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-88

Proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200811/msg00027.html
Discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200811/msg00037.html

ASSEMBLY-89: Need for a Callback annotation for WSDL interface files
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-89

Proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200811/msg00052.html

ASSEMBLY-90: Clarify @promote in the context of composite includes
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-90

Proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200811/msg00061.html

ASSEMBLY-34: Define error handling
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-34

ASSEMBLY-37 Need to clarify contents of an SCA Domain virtual composite
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-37

Latest proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200811/msg00024.html

ASSEMBLY-46: Dynamic Aspects of the Domain not adequately described in the Assembly Specification
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-46

ASSEMBLY-5: component type allows to specify wire targets on references
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-5

ASSEMBLY-86: Abstract CRUD APIs for definitions infoset
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-86

ASSEMBLY-87: A single definitions infoset is not sufficient
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-87

ASSEMBLY-80: Create an Event Processing Model for SCA
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-80

ASSEMBLY-2: use of UML 2.0
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-2

ASSEMBLY-91: Details needed for sca:ConversationViolation
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-91

7. Issue Status
17 Open Issues
x opened
x resolved
8. AOB

Contents

Topics
[1]  Opening
[2]  Action Itema
[3]  Administrivia
[4]  Conformance and Test
[5]  New Issues
[6]  ASSEMBLY-94 Remove Conversational interfaces functionality http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-94
[7]  ASSEMBLY-95 "wiredByImpl" is an invalid attribute for a Composite Reference http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-95
[8]  ASSEMBLY-96 Add a Section documenting naming conventions to the start ofthe SCA Assembly Specification http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-96
[9]  ASSEMBLY-97 Need Assembly level definition for "AllowsPassByReference" http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-97
[10]  Issues that exist and are still open previously to today
[11]  ASSEMBLY 57 Unresolved bindings on references http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-57
[12]  ASSEMBLY-33: Long-Running Request-Response Operations http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-33
[13]  AOB
Table of Resolutions
Table of Action Items

Action Items

Done:
id=2008-08-26-2 status=done Edwards to produce text that re-considers the application of the resolution to assembly-57
id=2008-11-18-1 status=done Edwards to coordinate and socialize this directional decision to the resolution of Assembly-33 with the affected TCs
Pending:
id=2008-06-03-6 status=pending Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness
id=2008-09-16-1 status=pending owner="Editors" Add text to justify no operator overloading as described in DaveB's E-mail
id=2008-10-30-4 status=pending Editors to fix pseudoschemas a/r to be consistent with the resolution that resolves Assembly-32
id=2008-10-30-5 status=pending Vorthman to create a proposal relative to potential solution for issue 5
id=2008-10-30-6 status=pending Karmarkar do the detailed work to implement the resolution to Assembly-60
New:
id=2008-11-25-1 status=pending Edwards to send mail to list looking for host and location for the f2f
id=2008-11-25-2 status=pending Editors implement changes to the spec as defined in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200811/msg00045.html

Resolutions

Minutes

Scribe: Bob Freund

Opening

LOA - Simon Moser
LOA - Dale Moberg
Roll - quorate with 17 of 23 voting members present
Agenda - agreed
Resolution: Minutes of 2008-11-18 approved w/o

Action Itema

Action: id=2008-06-03-6 status=pending Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness
Action: id=2008-08-26-2 status=done Edwards to produce text that re-considers the application of the resolution to assembly-57
Action: id=2008-09-16-1 status=pending owner="Editors" Add text to justify no operator overloading as described in DaveB's E-mail
Action: id=2008-10-30-4 status=pending Editors to fix pseudoschemas a/r to be consistent with the resolution that resolves Assembly-32
Action: id=2008-10-30-5 status=pending Vorthman to create a proposal relative to potential solution for issue 5
Action: id=2008-10-30-6 status=pending Karmarkar do the detailed work to implement the resolution to Assembly-60
Action: id=2008-11-18-1 status=done Edwards to coordinate and socialize this directional decision to the resolution of Assembly-33 with the affected TCs

Administrivia

Call scheduled for December 2 is canceled
Next face to face potentially week of Jan 26, Week of Feb 2 possible
Looking for someone to make an offer to host
Tentatively scheduled for week og Feb 2
Action: Edwards to send mail to list looking for host and location for the f2f

Conformance and Test

Edwards:
There are now scheduled a series of test calls on 09:00 Pacific on Wednesdays
A document "SCA Assembly Test Assertions", following the guidelines for test assertion writing has been sent to the list
Edwards walks the TC through the draft document
Invites all interested parties to attend the test calls

New Issues

ASSEMBLY-94 Remove Conversational interfaces functionality http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-94

Chapman assumes chair
Edwards argues his new issue stating that the conversational capability adds complexity yet does not satisfy, therefor ought to be removed
Resolution: m:Edwards s:Booz New Issue Assembly-94 opened w/o
<Mike Edwards>
I loved the alacrity I heard in Bob's voice

ASSEMBLY-95 "wiredByImpl" is an invalid attribute for a Composite Reference http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-95

Edwards describes his new issue
<Dieter Koenig>
Right - "wiredByImpl" is used in SCA-BPEL (BPEL processes assigning EPRs to partner links)
<anish>
promotion does two thing: visibility for wiring + configuration change. promotion for wireByImpl is for configuration change
Resolution: m:Edwards s:Booz New Issue Assembly-95 opened

ASSEMBLY-96 Add a Section documenting naming conventions to the start ofthe SCA Assembly Specification http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-96

Edwards:
Liaison cttee forwarded this from the Policy TC
Resolution: m:Edwards s:Freund New Issue Assembly-96 opened w/o
Resolution: m:Edwards s:Freund Resolve Assembly-96 by adding a conventions section to the Assembly specification according to the model in the proposal in JIRA w/o

ASSEMBLY-97 Need Assembly level definition for "AllowsPassByReference" http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-97

Edwards carries in this issue from the Java TC
Resolution: m:Edwards s:Combellack New Issue Assembly-97 opened w/o

Issues that exist and are still open previously to today

ASSEMBLY 57 Unresolved bindings on references http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-57

Edwards' analysis and proposal contained in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200811/msg00045.html
Action: Editors implement changes to the spec as defined in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200811/msg00045.html

ASSEMBLY-33: Long-Running Request-Response Operations http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-33

<Mike Edwards>
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200811/msg00073.html
<anish>
how about: namely that the binding allows for an arbitrarily large time interval between the request and response message transmission.
<anish>
original text: ... namely that the binding needs to be able to treat the transmission of the request message separately from the transmission of the response message, with an arbitrarily large time interval between the two transmissions.
+1 to Anish
<Martin C >
+1 to anish

AOB

Straggler roll
Adjourned

[End of Minutes]
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