Re: [ubl-dev] Patent encumberances as they apply to UBL?

[David Lyon <david.lyon@computergrid.net>]

On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:19 am, David Webber (XML) wrote:
>Actually you have to persist <free speech>my opinion</free speech>
>from a programming language memory object in a document
>presentation into a storage media using XML.

Yes, of course, that's what so many of have been doing for
years and it is now a criminal offence.

Whilst it is easy for you to joke about it, the recent case
of a Russian extradited to the States over an Adobe
related patented is an example of why this ms xml patent
is so bad.

Some countries don't have extradiction treaties, so
programmers there can do what they like with xml.

But in Western countries, violating the above patent
means that you can be extradited, thrown in a detention
centre, beaten, have your human rights waved goodbye
and if you are really lucky, get a few really nice sessions 
of sexual abuse.

If you think this doesn't happen with USPTO patents
then you have been sucking down to much laughing
gas.

So all of us that have been doing xml systems even
before the patent was finalised - are at risk of this
treatment.

If you think this is just a joke or that we are being
paranoid, why not, after all you are in the laughing 
seat.

Every western system needs to make examples
so it's only a matter of time before "somebody"
will get picked and "processed" for being an
"illegal operative" of an xml system.

So the only real choice is to seriously start to
think about decommissioning our "illegal" xml
systems - before the law is enforced and our
penalties applied.

For you to say that I am paranoid is totally
unbelievable....

Do you honestly think international treaties are
a joke? yes... you probably do... 

Do you really think that the us govt will care
about the human rights of these "illegal operatives"
when us patents are at stake?

because you don't have to worry about being
on the receiving end...

David