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Subject: Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 19|20 June 2006
MINUTES OF PACIFIC UBL TC MEETING 00:30 - 02:30 UTC TUESDAY 20 JUNE 2006 ATTENDANCE Jon Bosak (chair) Tim McGrath (vice chair) Ken Holman Andy Schoka Sylvia Webb STANDING ITEMS Additions to the calendar: http://ibiblio.org/bosak/ubl/calendar.htm GKH: There may be changes to the scheduling of the SC34 WG meetings in Montreal; should know for sure in about a week. Liaison report: UN/CEFACT TM: Have sent the announcement of liaison appointments to the CEFACT Bureau. The NES group has made a proposal to TBG1 to host a kickoff meeting at the end of July. It's been made clear that NES is just a facilitator, not a party to negotiation. Team report: Code Lists GKH: Posted 0.6 last night. Have all the genericode lists except Container Code. ACTION: GKH and TM to synthesize a "clean room" version of the Container Code list using the algorithm published by the Ship-planning Message Design Group (www.smdg.org). Subcommittee report: PSC SW: Met yesterday morning, reviewed frist draft of schema, now producing second draft; will produce the second set, then another draft after the NDR call Wednesday; plan to hold ad hoc meetings after each round of schema generation. JB: What is the issue with DENs? http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-psc/200606/msg00025.html SW: We used to have NDRs for getting rid of duplicates, but MarkC thought there was no need for a rule, CCTS shd take care of it. We disagree; the existing rules are not specific in terms of how to deal with duplicates. TM: There are actually two issues here: (1) how to deal with duplicates, and (2) how to deal with abbreviations (e.g., shorten "Identifier" to "ID", or where we have "text", drop it). These rules are not part of CCTS. We used to have such rules, but they were dropped at some point. JB: Can we just use the old language? TM: Mike and Mavis would know the best way to deal with this. JB: Will put on the agenda for the Atlantic call. Subcommittee report: TSC TM: Kama has been occupied in talks with the government of Singapore, so we've been unable to hold a call the last two weeks and are falling back to email, but TSC is not on the critical path at the moment. Review of Atlantic call No comments. Schedule review http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/200602/msg00016.html ACTION: JB to deliver a first build Friday p.m. so that GKH can review in time to send to his class for testing on Monday. MONTREAL TC MEETING JB: IDEAlliance has confirmed that rooms are available for our meeting. Still talking about room rates and reservations. MINOR VERSIONING PROPOSAL We informally discussed the proposal. GKH: Can we use the word "contextualization" for the creation of context-specific subsets? JB/TM: Would be confusing in light of the broader use of the term by ebXML, CEFACT, and early UBL. TM: But we do need something different from "subsetting"; suggest we characterize the proposal as "an approach that can be used to solve any kind of customization, not just contextualization." AGREED that the word "customization" should be used to cover this. JB: BTW, the OED does not recognize the existence of "custom" as an adjective, so we will have to use "bespoke" (as GKH is doing) even though it doesn't mean exactly the same thing. [Further research has shown this to be mistaken; in fact, the OED does recognize "custom" as an adjective, "chiefly U.S.," though it incorrectly equates it with "bespoke".] ACTION ITEM REVIEW ACTION: NDR editors to look at the syntax of the QDT for ChannelCode and tell TM whether this is a legal restriction: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/200606/msg00031.html TM: Update: DavidK has created one. SW: And I think it's accurate except possibly for attributes on individual code types, but we can go ahead and use it. TM: So the NDR editors should look at the GEFEG draft instead. SW: Posted yesterday, and there will be another in the next schema bundle. ACTION: PB to include the QDT spreadsheet in the WD3 package. Done. ACTION: TM to talk to PB about putting the change log into a form that will help indicate the differences between this review package and the last one. Pending. ACTION: TM to mail comment submitters with disposition of comments. Pending. JULY MEETINGS JB: Will be traveling and unavailable to chair the TC meetings 7/18 and 7/19. TM: Will chair the Pacific call 17|18 July. ACTION: JB to check with MC about possibly chairing the call 7/19. Jon Bosak Chair, OASIS UBL TC
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