Re: Delicate subject: changing the attendance requirements

[Robin Cover <robin@isogen.com>]

On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, B. Tommie Usdin wrote:

> Eve --
> 
> I don't recall anything that says a TC can change such rules, and I 
> do recall a discussion about how much protection for the Chair some 
> unchangeable rules were (such as those on membership termination). 
> Because the TC can't change these rules the chair is not under 
> pressure from members to bend the rules for this member or that.
> 
> It seems to me that if a TC can change a rule this basic it could 
> also change the rules about allowing anyone to join, making the 
> process open, and anything else.  This seems like a bad idea to me, 
> and I don't think the by-lays allow it.

So this might resolve to a question of whether the bylaws are
explicit about the precedence of OASIS process rules and RROR, if
there is a conflict, (or) the realm within which process under
RROR can supersede/contravene the OASIS bylaws.  If the bylaws say
nothing about this, then it's a question of what the silence of the
bylaws implies.  I have no idea.

Robin

> Perhaps your TC should be organized as a bunch of TCs (one for each 
> current subcommittee) and a Joint Committee.  Then the membership 
> requirements would be for each of the smaller groups and for a few 
> people to be on the JC.
> 
> -- Tommie
> 
> 
> 
> >My TC is huge (nearly 80 people), and a lot of the work is getting done at
> >subcommittee meetings.  I'd like to find a way to ease the good-standing
> >penalties on members who are very active on subgroups, and who occasionally
> >can't make the whole-TC meetings because they're traveling or
> >whatever.  However, I don't want to endanger quorum at the whole-TC meetings.
> >
> >As I understand it, the TC can adopt a standing rule that overrides the
> >OASIS rules (and RROR), though the requirements for passage of such motion
> >are slightly higher than for regular motions; adopting a rule easing
> >attendance requirements would fall into this category.  Do people think
> >it's a good idea to mess with the attendance requirements at all?
> >
> >If so, what might be a suitably mild revision?  I'm thinking merely of a
> >small revision to paragraph 6(a).  It currently reads:
> >
> >"A member shall be warned by mail from the chair of the TC upon failure to
> >attend two out of every three successive meetings of the TC. Membership
> >shall be terminated if the member fails to attend the next meeting
> >following transmittal of the warning."
> >
> >It could read:
> >
> >"A member shall be warned by mail from the chair of the TC upon failure to
> >attend two out of every three successive meetings of the TC. If the member
> >has not attended two out of three meetings of the subcommittees on which
> >the member sits, or if the member does not sit on any subcommittees,
> >membership shall be terminated if the member fails to attend the next
> >committee meeting following transmittal of the warning.  If the member sits
> >on one or more subcommittees and has attended two out of three meetings of
> >those subcommittees, membership shall be terminated if the member fails to
> >attend one of the next two committee meetings following transmittal of the
> >warning."
> >
> >What say you all?
> >
> >	Eve
> >--
> >Eve Maler                                          +1 781 442 3190
> >Sun Microsystems XML Technology Center    eve.maler @ east.sun.com
> >
> >
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