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Subject: RE: [wsrf] Issue 30 resolution text question
You are correct w.r.t. the element for the wsdl:part. However, all of the wsdl:input and wsdl:output names are xxxRequest and xxxResponse. (at least that is the way it looks to me...) Tom Problems cannot be solved at the same level of awareness that created them. —Albert Einstein T o m M a g u i r e STSM, On Demand Architecture Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 Steve Graham/Raleigh/IB M@IBMUS To Tom Maguire/Hawthorne/IBM@IBMUS 11/15/2004 03:35 cc PM "Murray, Bryan P." <bryan.murray@hp.com>, "Srinivasan, Latha" <latha.srinivasan@hp.com>, Tim Banks <tim_banks@uk.ibm.com>, wsrf@lists.oasis-open.org Subject RE: [wsrf] Issue 30 resolution text question I don;t think the specs use xxxRequest and xxxResponse. they used to. now they use XXX and XXXResponse (no longer use the Request suffix). sgg ++++++++ Steve Graham (919)254-0615 (T/L 444) STSM, On Demand Architecture Member, IBM Academy of Technology <Soli Deo Gloria/> ++++++++ Tom Maguire/Hawthorne/IB M@IBMUS To Tim Banks <tim_banks@uk.ibm.com> 11/10/2004 09:34 AM cc "Murray, Bryan P." <bryan.murray@hp.com>, "Srinivasan, Latha" <latha.srinivasan@hp.com>, wsrf@lists.oasis-open.org Subject RE: [wsrf] Issue 30 resolution text question Tim, good catch, and yes I believe that all of the specs use xxxRequest and xxxResponse for the input and output names. Tom Problems cannot be solved at the same level of awareness that created them. —Albert Einstein T o m M a g u i r e STSM, On Demand Architecture Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 Tim Banks <tim_banks@uk.ibm .com> To "Murray, Bryan P." 11/10/2004 07:44 <bryan.murray@hp.com> AM cc "Srinivasan, Latha" <latha.srinivasan@hp.com>, Tom Maguire/Hawthorne/IBM@IBMUS, <wsrf@lists.oasis-open.org> Subject RE: [wsrf] Issue 30 resolution text question I agree we should have mechanical mappings, but I propose we use the recipe already described in section 3.3.2 of WS-Addressing, namely [target namespace]/[port type name]/[input|output name] Of course, we are using the namespace and portType name to indicate the base portType, and not whatever is derived from it by aggregation. So Latha would use: http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsrf/2004/11/wsrf-WS-ResourceLifetime-1.2-draft-04.wsdl/ ImmediateResourceTermination/DestroyRequest for the input to the destroy operation. The relationship of the message name attribute to the operation is a separate issue, I think, though a convention for this is useful. However, the specs already seem to use Request and Response suffixes, yes? Regards, Tim Banks IBM TP Architecture & Technology. Hursley, UK. Phone: External +44 1962 815639, Internal 245639 "Murray, Bryan P." <bryan.murray@hp.com> wrote on 09/11/2004 20:07:32: > Since Tom and Latha are using different mappings to create the > SOAPAction, I would like to propose one that all specs use. > > The SOAPAction URI is created by: > <WSDL namespace> + '/' + <WSDL message name> > > Latha would use: > http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsrf/2004/11/wsrf-WS-ResourceLifetime-1. > 2-draft-04.wsdl/Destroy > > Tom would use: > http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsrf/2004/11/wsrf-WS-ServiceGroup-1.2- > draft-03.wsdl/Add > > Using this method, the mapping is purely mechanical. > > One more issue related to SOAPAction and wsa:Action is that wsa: > Action has a different value for every message. In order to address > this issue, I think we need to list 2 values for SOAPAction for > every request-response message exchange. I recommend that the WSDL > message elements be named <operation> and <operation>Response, where > "<operation>" is replaced with the name of the WSDL operation. In > order to assure the mechanical mapping to SOAPAction, we should make > sure to name our request messages <operation> and our response > messages <operation>Response. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Srinivasan, Latha > Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:35 AM > To: 'Tom Maguire'; wsrf@lists.oasis-open.org > Cc: ian_robinson@uk.ibm.com > Subject: RE: [wsrf] Issue 30 resolution text question > > I interpreted the Issue Resolution to be whatever is going to be in > the "Action" part of the SOAP header. So, in my case, for the > "Destroy" message, my normative text would be: > > > "If a SOAPAction URI is included in the transport portion of the > message, it MUST contain the URI: > http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsrf/2004/11/wsrf-WS-ResourceLifetime/Destroy" > > I would like to be consistent with the other specs. in resolving this issue. > -Latha > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Maguire [mailto:tmaguire@us.ibm.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 2:22 PM > To: wsrf@lists.oasis-open.org > Cc: ian_robinson@uk.ibm.com > Subject: [wsrf] Issue 30 resolution text question > > > > > > Quick question. Issue 30 leaves the structure of the URI open to the > editor. Do we want to have the URI match the specification versioning > structure? For example in WS-ServiceGroup for the Add operation: > > If a SOAPAction URI is included in the transport portion of the Add > message, it MUST contain the URI > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsrf/2004/11/wsrf-WS-ServiceGroup-1.2-draft-03/ > Add. > > > Tom > > Problems cannot be solved at the same level of awareness that created them. > -Albert Einstein T o m M a g u i r e STSM, On Demand Architecture > > > Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 > >
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