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Subject: SV: [bdx] Groups - Inter-Cloud BDX Identity Use Cases (OASIS IDCloud - Inter-Cloud Doc Exchange Use Case v0.11 2011-03-25.doc) uploaded
+1 for focus right now. ________________________________________ Fra: Mike Edwards [mike_edwards@uk.ibm.com] Sendt: 28. marts 2011 11:42 Til: bdx@lists.oasis-open.org Emne: Re: [bdx] Groups - Inter-Cloud BDX Identity Use Cases (OASIS ID Cloud - Inter-Cloud Doc Exchange Use Case v0.11 2011-03-25.doc) uploaded Folks, Clearly, the BDX 4 corner model has a need for good use case descriptions and this applies to Identity and Trust as well as to the other aspects of the infrastructure. Equally, it is reasonable to ensure that the mechanisms used for the BDX specifications take into account the approaches adopted more widely in the industry. However, I am very concerned with what I interpret as an expansion of the scope of the work of the BDX TC, particularly when that expansion is into territory where there is already a great deal of activity being conducted elsewhere. "a broader framework that can encompass the various 3-corner models" is the first example of this expansion. The BDX TC is chartered to address the 4 corner model - to deal with 3-corner models also is to take on a lot more work and I think that this is inappropriate for the BDX TC. The establishment of a formal liaison between BDX and the Id-Cloud TC also appears to take the BDX TC into new territory. "Cloud Computing" is not part of the work in the charter for the BDX TC. I fear that an expansion of the work of the BDX TC into this area will be to the detriment of the work on the 4 corner model - Cloud computing is a big area with a lot of active work going on in a variety of venues. I am doubtful that venturing into this space will serve the BDX TC well - and that it will likely divert attention and energy from the matters that only the BDX TC is going to look at. In standards work, it is usually best to stay focussed, otherwise there is a danger of never completing anything useful. Yours, Mike ________________________________ Dr Mike Edwards Mail Point 137, Hursley Park [cid:_1_0C0603400C05FF6C00347FEB80257861] STSM Winchester, Hants SO21 2JN SCA & Services Standards United Kingdom Co-Chair OASIS SCA Assembly TC IBM Software Group Phone: +44-1962 818014 Mobile: +44-7802-467431 (274097) e-mail: mike_edwards@uk.ibm.com From: roger@traxian.com To: bdx@lists.oasis-open.org Date: 26/03/2011 18:11 Subject: [bdx] Groups - Inter-Cloud BDX Identity Use Cases (OASIS ID Cloud - Inter-Cloud Doc Exchange Use Case v0.11 2011-03-25.doc) uploaded ________________________________ We had some earlier email discussion on this list about defining identity / Trust Framework use cases (a notion that Thomas Gundel I think supported). Since then, I became aware of another OASIS TC on 'Identity in the Cloud' (aka id-cloud). That TC has a use case analysis effort that seems well matched to what seemed to be needed from this TC's perspective. This initial draft is in considerable need of improvement, not least as to my various errors and mis-characterizations of the BDX Addressing/Security models. As stated in the document, one goal was to define a broader framework that can encompass the various 3-corner network models, and facilitate easy, end-to-end connection setup more broadly. Feedback and suggested edits are very welcome. If the TC agrees, we might even collaborate to get this to 'Approved Document' status for re-submission to the Id-Cloud TC. (I have already posted it there for feedback from that group). I would also like to propose establishing a formal liaison relationship between the two TCs. Id-Cloud TC members also seem well plugged into the world of identity standards (i.e. KI, OIX etc) and may have useful input about how best to move this forward. The goal, obviously, is to get broad buy-in and adoption, in particular by some of the larger industry players. With that in mind, the document uses the term 'Inter-Cloud' to position the BDX requirements as a leading edge use case for a big, important shift in the Cloud Computing world more generally. I look forward to any feedback and further discussion, whether via document comments here, on the email list, or on upcoming TC calls. Best regards, Roger Bass -- Roger Bass The document named Inter-Cloud BDX Identity Use Cases (OASIS ID Cloud - Inter-Cloud Doc Exchange Use Case v0.11 2011-03-25.doc) has been submitted by Roger Bass to the OASIS Business Document Exchange TC document repository. Document Description: Use cases relating to identity issues in "Inter-Cloud" business document exchange, including both 4-corner and 3-corner scenarios. 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