Re: [bpel4people] BPEL4People TC - 3/17 Draft Agenda

[Dave Ings <ings@ca.ibm.com>]

Hi Yoichi,

I think it is fair to say that no one individual on the TC fully understands the issues you are raising (BP-64 and BP-72) and hence no one can speak on your behalf. They are currently in "new" state, which means that the TC has not decided (voted on) whether they should be moved to "open" state, assigned to a TC member and worked on.

Although there is no OASIS best practice in situations like this, I think that given you have tried without success to explain your point of view via email they are unlikely to be opened unless you can find a way to attend the TC and explain the issues person.

In the meantime I will create a JIRA ID for you (I did not realize you did not have one) so you can update the issue text as you see fit.

Regards, Dave Ings,
Emerging Software Standards
Email: ings@ca.ibm.com
Yahoo Messenger: dave_ings

Yoichi Takayama ---2009/03/17 05:50:40 PM---Thanks, Dave. The issue BP-64 still stands if I understand the standards correctly.

From:	Yoichi Takayama <yoichi@melcoe.mq.edu.au>
To:	Dave Ings/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
Cc:	bpel4people@lists.oasis-open.org
Date:	2009/03/17 05:50 PM
Subject:	Re: [bpel4people] BPEL4People TC - 3/17 Draft Agenda

---

Thanks, Dave.

The issue BP-64 still stands if I understand the standards correctly. I hope that someone can represent my position or can acknowledge the issue really exists.

As to BP-72, may I amend it?

In the proposal "Also, clarify what it is." is fine, but can you delete all of the following parts from the "(1)...."?

Initially, I thought that the Task Processor was a Task Web Service, but you mean it is a module which gets the HumanTask definition (XML) from the Process engine and take responsibility of processing the information and handling the Task List and Task UI (note: the draft document states that the Task UI Client can be a part of the Task List Client or an additional application that is coordinated by the Task List application).

Also, I have sent an additional issue request but it has not been created yet.

Also, I have sent an additional explanation for BP-64. If you can correlate it with the BP-64, that would be great.

Thanks,
Yoichi
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yoichi Takayama, PhD
Senior Research Fellow
RAMP Project
MELCOE (Macquarie E-Learning Centre of Excellence)
MACQUARIE UNIVERSITY

Phone: +61 (0)2 9850 9073
Fax: +61 (0)2 9850 6527
www.mq.edu.au
www.melcoe.mq.edu.au/projects/RAMP/
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
MACQUARIE UNIVERSITY: CRICOS Provider No 00002J

This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information.  If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of Macquarie E-Learning Centre Of Excellence (MELCOE) or Macquarie University.

On 18/03/2009, at 8:04 AM, Dave Ings wrote:

Here's the draft agenda for this week's TC meeting. Comments welcome.

We do not have enough agenda items to justify holding the meeting. If you are working on an open issue and want agenda time, please let me know else the meeting is likely to be cancelled.

Note we are starting at 11 AM ET so for European participants the start time will be one hour earlier than usual (due to the DST change).

1. Roll call, assignment of today's minute taker, agenda review

According to the chair's notes, the minute taker candidates are Krasmimir, Hannah, Ravi and Ivana

2. Review and approval of the previous TC minutes

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/bpel4people/email/archives/200903/msg00010.html

3a. Review Administrative Action Items (if any open)

o None

3b. Review LOA Requests (if any new)

No new requests.

4. Discuss New Issues (up to 30 minutes)

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BP-64
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BP-72

Both of these were submitted by Yoichi, and we will only discuss them if Yoichi is able to dial in to explain them.

5. Review Issue Action Items (if any open)

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/bpel4people/members/action_items.php?sort_type=DESC

6. Discuss Open Issues (up to 90 minutes)

Time is available for members working on resolutions for open issues.

7. AOB

8. Editing Subcommittee Meeting

Telecon Information:

North American toll-free number: 866-245-5059
European toll-free number: (00)-800-4444-1010
International number: 416-343-2607
Conference ID: 2388736

Informal chat room: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/bpel4people-TC

Regards, Dave Ings,
Emerging Software Standards
Email: ings@ca.ibm.com
Yahoo Messenger: dave_ings