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Subject: RE: [cgmo-webcgm] QUESTION: ban 0x09, 0x0A, 0x0D from 'name' ?
At 05:01 PM 10/4/2005 -0600, Robert Orosz wrote: >I think the parenthetical comment would be helpful. Will do. >I had never heard the >term "format effector" before, and glossed over it when I read the PPF. I think it might come from ASCII? Just looking at the summaries of the Google hits, they seemed to mention ASCII a lot. -Lofton. >-----Original Message----- >From: Lofton Henderson [mailto:lofton@rockynet.com] >Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 4:35 PM >To: Robert Orosz; cgmo-webcgm@lists.oasis-open.org >Subject: RE: [cgmo-webcgm] QUESTION: ban 0x09, 0x0A, 0x0D from 'name' ? > > >Thanks for looking it up, Robert. I myself didn't remember that it was in >CGM:1999. > >Should we add the parenthetical "(NUL, CR, LF, BS, HT, VT, and FF)" to the >PPF, to avoid future confusion? > >-Lofton. > >At 01:14 PM 10/4/2005 -0600, Robert Orosz wrote: > >I found the definition of format effector in CGM99 itself. > > > >The first sentence of the last paragraph in section 6.3.4.5 has it. > > > >Format effector control characters (NUL, CR, LF, BS, HT, VT, and FF) are > >permitted in a (sic) parameters of type String Fixed but their > >interpretation is implementation dependent. > > > >I apologize for not looking there sooner! > > > >Rob > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Robert Orosz [mailto:roboro@AUTO-TROL.com] > >Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 11:32 AM > >To: 'Lofton Henderson'; cgmo-webcgm@lists.oasis-open.org > >Subject: RE: [cgmo-webcgm] QUESTION: ban 0x09, 0x0A, 0x0D from 'name' ? > > > > > >Hi Lofton, > > > >That is a nice reference. However, its official status within the IETF is > >"UNKNOWN." I certainly would not want to use this as a normative >reference. > > > >I decided the most logical place to start is page 1 of CGM99 under the > >heading "3 Normative references." > > > >Rob > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Lofton Henderson [mailto:lofton@rockynet.com] > >Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 10:56 AM > >To: Robert Orosz; cgmo-webcgm@lists.oasis-open.org > >Subject: RE: [cgmo-webcgm] QUESTION: ban 0x09, 0x0A, 0x0D from 'name' ? > > > > > > > >At 10:26 AM 10/4/2005 -0600, Robert Orosz wrote: > > >OK, I'll see if I can come up with the answer to the question of what a > > >format effector is. > > > > > >I'm looking at ISO/IEC 2022 right now, and the answer is not jumping out >at > > >me. > > > >Here might an alternative place to start... note the "FE" entries in the > >table... > >http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc20.html > > > >-Lofton. > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Lofton Henderson [mailto:lofton@rockynet.com] > > >Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 10:22 AM > > >To: Robert Orosz; cgmo-webcgm@lists.oasis-open.org > > >Subject: RE: [cgmo-webcgm] QUESTION: ban 0x09, 0x0A, 0x0D from 'name' ? > > > > > > > > >At 10:11 AM 10/4/2005 -0600, Robert Orosz wrote: > > > >OK, that raises the question, what is a format effector? I assumed it > >was > > > >talking about ANSI style escape sequences. However, I don't see it > >defined > > > >in sections 9.5.4.6 or 9.5.4.7 of CGM99. > > > > > > > >What is a format effector? Is it defined somewhere in CGM99 or one of > >the > > > >normative references therein? > > > > > >Another good point, Rob. I don't know the answer, right off hand. I >have > > >a feeling it could be defined somewhere like ISO 2022 (isn't that where >C0 > > >and C1 control characters are defined? ). > > > > > >I know from ancient history that we (ISO CGM group) were talking about > > >things like HORIZONTAL TAB, NEWLINE, CARRIAGE RETURN, VERTICAL TAB, etc/ > > > > > >Are you interested to research and come up with the answer? It would be > > >good to spell out, just what "format effectors" includes. I just googled > > >"format effector", and there are plenty of hits. (I'd like to keep > > >processing review comments for tomorrow, rather than get side tracked.) > > > > > >-Lofton.
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