Re: [cgmo-webcgm] RE: about transform [was RE: [cgmo-webcgm] Groups - Proposed WebCGM 2.1 ...]

[Lofton Henderson <lofton@rockynet.com>]

At 11:32 AM 9/4/2007 -0400, Bezaire, Benoit wrote:
>Hi Lofton,
>
>No I didn't see the demo.
>
>But regardless, we have a hard time imagining CGM users will take the
>time & effort required to write javascript code and do 3x3 matrix
>calculations.

That is one thing that impressed me about their demo ... how much work 
*they* were willing to do to create "discount animation".

Also their demo made clear that they are not the end user of the 
animations.  What they did is create a tool that handles/hides most of the 
tedious dirty work needed to create the end-user's animation (in their 
"discount animation" style.)

Clearly, the creation of such animations without the tool would be beyond 
the ambition or ability of the average user (as you noted above).

Just to clarify, for my own understanding... Does "time & effort" represent 
the entire scope of your comment, "it will result in a bad user 
experience"?  Or did you have other aspects in mind?

Cheers,
-Lofton.



>-----Original Message-----
>From: Lofton Henderson [mailto:lofton@rockynet.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 11:20 AM
>To: Bezaire, Benoit; cgmo-webcgm@lists.oasis-open.org
>Subject: about transform [was RE: [cgmo-webcgm] Groups - Proposed WebCGM
>2.1 ...]
>
>Hi Benoit,
>
>One question about your comments, and a question to everyone at
>Seattle...
>
>At 10:25 AM 9/4/2007 -0400, Bezaire, Benoit wrote:
> >Hi All,
> >
> >I will be on the call tomorrow. Dieter will try to attend but his
> >schedule may prevent him from doing so.
> >
> >Here's our position on the 2.1 requirements:
> >- substring hotspots: ok.
> >- text search: ok for example; we think the general text search
> >functionality should be a viewer feature as oppose to a DOM interface.
> >i.e., why should a user have to write javascript to search for text in
> >a CGM file?
> >- animation:
> >  1) we do not see our dev team implementing a transform interface, we
> >think it will result in a bad user experience.
>
>I'm curious whether you ever managed to arrange to see the demo that
>Molly and Larry showed us in Seattle?
>
>I'd like to hear from the other attendees, but I got the impression that
>everyone thought availability of transform (at least as a Style
>Property) would be useful to them in implementing their "discount
>animation" more efficiently than they presently are able.
>
>Comments?  (Everyone!)
>
>Regards,
>-Lofton.
>
> >  2) zoom and pan interface: no objection.
> >  3) additional style properties: we need more info.
> >- improved font interchange: ok.
> >- z-compression: ok.
> >- clarify transparency: ok.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Benoit.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: david.w.cruikshank@boeing.com
> >[mailto:david.w.cruikshank@boeing.com]
> >Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 6:20 PM
> >To: cgmo-webcgm@lists.oasis-open.org
> >Subject: [cgmo-webcgm] Groups - Proposed WebCGM 2.1 enhancements
> >(WebCGM_21_list_r2.html) uploaded
> >
> >updated the WebCGM 2.1 enhancement document again to add the
> >interaction of transparency
> >
> >  -- Mr. david cruikshank
> >
> >The document revision named Proposed WebCGM 2.1 enhancements
> >(WebCGM_21_list_r2.html) has been submitted by Mr. david cruikshank to
> >the OASIS CGM Open WebCGM TC document repository.  This document is
> >revision #2 of WebCGM_21_list.html.
> >
> >Document Description:
> >This is a draft document identifying potential WebCGM 2.1 functionality
>
> >enhancements.
> >
> >Added the functionalilty of z-compression left out in the original
> >document
> >
> >Rev 2 added the transparency issue
> >
> >View Document Details:
> >http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/cgmo-webcgm/document.php?d
> >o
> >cument_id=25179
> >
> >Download Document:
> >http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/cgmo-webcgm/download.php/2
> >5
> >179/WebCGM_21_list_r2.html
> >
> >Revision:
> >This document is revision #2 of WebCGM_21_list.html.  The document
> >details page referenced above will show the complete revision history.
> >
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