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Subject: FW: CIQ, xNL, xAL


CIQians
 
FYI. The HR Consortium does not seem to get what the CIQ is trying to achieve, ie. a name
and address standard that is "Global" and is NOT APPLICATION DEPENDENT such as
postal business, etc.
 
Ram
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Ram Kumar [mailto:rkumar@msi.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 10:25 AM
To: 'Paul Kiel'
Subject: RE: CIQ, xNL, xAL

Mr.Kiel
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Kiel [mailto:paul@xmlhelpline.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 12:44 AM
To: rkumar@msi.com.au
Subject: CIQ, xNL, xAL

Mr. Kumar,
 
I am Paul Kiel, a consultant to the HR-XML Consortium (a non-profit consortium of over 110 human resource related companies), and I wanted to touch base with you regarding the CIQ work you have been doing.  I wanted to share with you some items we have worked on that are akin to your xAL and xNL.   See attached files.  
 
There seems to be a growing number of organizations that are working toward similar interoperability goals.  I have heard of the international postal people (the name of the organization escapes me) getting together to map out a standard postal address specification.  And of course ebXML Core Components is still at work.  Our expertise is of course with Human Resource related information and not postal addresses, so we will probably be sympathetic toward standards coming from ebXML or the postal people with regard to things like postal address.  Have you networked with these folks regarding xAL and xNL? 
 
I had a look at your standards long back. It is true that your standards are not "global". That is, they cannot handle postal addresses and
person names from all countries (i.e 227). As such, no standards in XML have been developed to handle "global" data. This is the
objective of our work. It is much more detailed and therefore, is not restricted to just one application of address, ie. postal. It  be used
in variety of applications that use addresses. For example, data cleansing, customer data quality, etc. The number of examples in the
standards work proves that the standard xAL and xNL are moving towards "global" solution. Following are the groups that are now interested
to work with us and we are talking about it now:
- OTA, Open Travel Association (more than 150 members)
- CPExchange, Customer Profile Exchange Group
- CEN (Eurpoean Standardisation Body), that is working on postal standards in conjunction with United Nations Postal Union,
  USPS (US Postal Services), Direct Mail Advisorry Board and UN/EDIFACT.
- XNS.ORG
- ebXML (which is part of OASIS anyway).
 
We are very much looking forward to share our work with any group. A single standard is the solution. I am sure your group can
also share our work as your DTDs on postal address and Names is a small subset of our work.
 
Looking forward to hearing from you
 
Regards
 
Ram
 
  
 
At any rate, we had seen the work you are doing and we simply wanted to share ours in the name of open standards.  If you have any further questions about HR-XML, visit http://www.hr-xml.org
 
Regards,
 
Paul Kiel
 
W. Paul Kiel
HR-XML Consortium
919-845-7689
paul@hr-xml.org


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