RE: [dita-sidsc] RE: Why can't I subscribe for updates on the wiki?

["Carol Geyer" <carol.geyer@oasis-open.org>]

Hey, our resources may be few, but they're mighty.

--carol 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mary McRae [mailto:marypmcrae@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Mary McRae
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 4:00 PM
To: 'Beims Bob'
Cc: 'Carol Geyer (OASIS)'; 'Neil Schelly (OASIS)'; 'Semiconductor Information
Design Subcommittee'
Subject: RE: [dita-sidsc] RE: Why can't I subscribe for updates on the wiki?

The first step will be the public pages and ancillary resources (OASIS Library,
wiki, etc.) but eventually will result in an entirely new suite of tools for TC
management. It's a significant undertaking and we have few resources, but work
is underway.

 

Regards,

 

Mary

 

From: Beims Bob [mailto:bob.beims@freescale.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 2:01 PM
To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org
Cc: Carol Geyer (OASIS); Neil Schelly (OASIS); Semiconductor Information Design
Subcommittee
Subject: [dita-sidsc] RE: Why can't I subscribe for updates on the wiki?

 

Mary;

 

If there are plans to change the infrastructure, then we definitely don't want
to start down a path that will be a dead-end. But at least I've lodged a
feature request for the Drupal deployment!

 

I'll let the SIDSC members know that we'll have to manually email the list when
we make Wiki page changes.

 

Thanks,
Bob

 

	 

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	From: Mary McRae [mailto:marypmcrae@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Mary McRae
	Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 11:38 AM
	To: Beims Bob
	Cc: 'Carol Geyer (OASIS)'; 'Neil Schelly (OASIS)'; 'Semiconductor
Information Design Subcommittee'
	Subject: RE: Why can't I subscribe for updates on the wiki?

	Hi Bob,

	 

	  That's an interesting suggestion - that the TC maillist be
subscribed. I don't know if that's feasible, or if all TCs/SCs would want that
implemented. A member who updates a wiki page could also send a note to the TC
list indicating that they've done so - that would eliminate messages every time
something is touched. I'm also not sure how notifications work - if they
"inherit" or if each page would need a separate subscription. At this point in
time there  are no plans for MoinMoin wiki changes; there is a major effort
underway that will change the way our main websites and public TC pages are
hosted; it is likely (but no decisions have been made as of yet) that MoinMoin
will go away in favor of Drupal-based functionality.

	 

	Regards,

	 

	Mary

	 

	From: Beims Bob [mailto:bob.beims@freescale.com] 
	Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 12:09 PM
	To: Mary McRae (OASIS)
	Cc: Carol Geyer (OASIS); Neil Schelly (OASIS); Semiconductor
Information Design Subcommittee
	Subject: RE: Why can't I subscribe for updates on the wiki?

	 

	Mary;

	 

	I guess I don't quite follow the logic ...

	*	http://wiki.oasis-open.org/ content is visible to non-members
(a Good Thing) 
	*	non-members can't login, and thus can't make changes (a Good
Thing) 
	*	non-members, since they can't login, can't subscribe to topics
(a Neutral Thing) 
	*	members can login, and thus can make changes (a Good Thing) 
	*	members can't subscribe to be notified when changes are made by
other members, and thus collaboration is hindered (a Bad Thing, IMO) 

	Perhaps there's something in MoinMoin's implementation that makes
subscriptions a problem for the way oasis-open.org is using it? But how about
this as a workaround:

		The http://wiki.oasis-open.org/ admin makes the
dita-sidsc@lists.oasis-open.org mail list a subscriber to all topics in the web
underneath http://wiki.oasis-open.org/dita/Semiconductor so that folks who are
part of the subcommittee are automatically "subscribed" to changes?

	Just a thought...

	 

	Regards,
	Bob

________________________________

		From: Mary McRae [mailto:marypmcrae@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
Mary McRae
		Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 9:26 AM
		To: Beims Bob; 'Neil Schelly (OASIS)'
		Cc: 'Carol Geyer (OASIS)'
		Subject: RE: Why can't I subscribe for updates on the wiki?

		Hi Bob,

		 

		  That functionality has been disabled since it would not be
available to non-members. 

		 

		Regards,

		 

		Mary

		 

		From: Beims Bob [mailto:bob.beims@freescale.com] 
		Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 9:47 AM
		To: Neil Schelly (OASIS)
		Cc: Carol Geyer (OASIS); Mary McRae (OASIS)
		Subject: Why can't I subscribe for updates on the wiki?

		 

		Neil;

		The DITA Semiconductor Information Design Subcommittee is
trying to use the http://wiki.oasis-open.org/dita
<http://wiki.oasis-open.org/dita>  for collaboration, but one big hurdle is
that people have to remember to go look at the wiki to discover updates. When I
select "Subscribe User" from the "More Actions" menu, I get the message "You
are not allowed to perform this action". So how do we get email updates sent to
folks when changes are made on the wiki?

		Respectfully,
		Bob Beims

		Applications Engineer, Staff Principal
		Microcontroller Solutions Group

		

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