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*Subject*: **Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: db2latex**

*From*:**Michel Goossens <Michel.Goossens@cern.ch>***To*: Sebastian Rahtz <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk>*Date*: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 09:24:40 +0200 (METDST)

> in what ways are they inadequate? > > > Besides, db2latex is a kind of freestanding > > Docbook to LaTeX converter, using XSL! > > sure. if I was doing the job, I'd start from that > > > Last, I don't see where confusion > > is: Docbook gives the structure, and latex the expected intermediate > > formatting output, even if it's true that latex is a mix of style and > > structure. > > "normal" LaTeX does a lot of generation (TOC, index, list numbering, > section headers, cross-ref text, cite text, etc), all of which are > also done by eg the DSSSL and XSL Docbook systems. Thats the confusion > that bothers me. > > If I wanted LaTeX to format docbook, I'd use xmltex, and not do any > translation at all. > I agree mostly with Sebastian (and the others) that XSL-FO is the (probable) future, but on a pratical level, for documents that have a lot of scientific content, mainly math, if we want to print something typographically acceptable, going the (La)TeX route is still (for years to come, awaiting the inclusion of math typesetting into XSL-FO) the only real possibility. I am actively working on---and I am particularly interested in help with---finding the best way to marry DocBook (+Math, SVG) with print, be it via XSL-FO (a lot of tuning remains, think about table handling, not mentioning math), xmltex (directly making TeX interpret the XML, probably a non-starter for complex DTDs such as DocBook), or the XSLT to LaTeX approach of db2latex. I think we should work on all of them in parallel, so that we can learn the difficulties along the road, and pick the solution that works best today for the problem at hand, improving at the same time the probability that a global XSL-FO-based approach will see the light one day. Urgent work to be done today is: 1) Complete the XSL-FO part of Norm's stylesheets (as I said, tables need some work, since TeX's table model imposes constraints that make a general implementation quite involved). 2) expand xmltex (especialy the math bit) 3) complete db2latex (also in particular the math bit) I think that a coordination of the effort spent in all of these areas would be worthwhile to optimize resources. All the best, m Dr. Michel Goossens Phone:(+41 22) 767-4902 CERN, IT Division Fax: (+41 22) 767-8630 CH-1211 Geneva 23, Switzerland Email: michel.goossens@cern.ch

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