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Subject: Re: [docbook] Re: Tables, braille and other stuff


That's far from it... accessibility guidelines call to make accomodations
for everyone and doing universal design, not just what's more convenient for
me at the time.  I am not a disabled user but have come to appreciate the
advantage of having a screen reader while i'm engaged in other activities.

While a table may be the best way to represent a matrix, accessibility
technology requires you to do a lot more work than you normally would, see

I'd also go one more on Dave's suggestion. Download a copy of IBM homepage
reader or JAWS and have them read the generated page to you without any
modification and see if that makes any difference... I can guarantee you
it'll be a completely different experience than just looking at the pagee.
Tables are usually the wors offenders :)

If there's enough interested, I'd like to propose an accessibility
evaluation of the Stylesheets and a set of guidelines/recomendations for
stylesheets customizers

Carlos E. Araya
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Beal" <jeff.beal@ansys.com>
To: "'Dave Pawson'" <dpawson@nildram.co.uk>; "Steinar Bang" <sb@dod.no>;
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 09:16
Subject: RE: [docbook] Re: Tables, braille and other stuff

> > Why Steinar?
> >    Because you can visually scan n columns/rows quickly?
> >   Take care when you deliver material to those whose access methods
> > are serial.
> >   They perhaps can't scan them so quickly.
> > A table, one cell at a time, is pretty hard work, and tiring
> > on the brain :-)
> > regards DaveP
> Pardon my ignorance for a moment, but do accessibility guidelines suggest
> that we make our information less accessible for the "seeing" population
> order to make it more accessible for the "non-seeing" population?  Or (as
> understand it) do they suggest methods and standards for adding
> to our existing data for alternate presentation?
> Jeff
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