RE: [docbook-apps] removing elements and attrs from <title>

["Cramer, David W (David)" <dcramer@motive.com>]

Yes, I like the idea of no ids on titles. 

For the remarks in titles, I'll leave that to someone who knows relaxng better than I do, but maybe a schematron rule would be easier? Or if you are willing to preprocess the document before handing it off to LaTeX, you could just move any <remark>s to immediately after the titles they appear in. 

David

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Maxwell [mailto:maxwell@umiacs.umd.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 9:01 AM
> To: Cramer, David W (David)
> Cc: DocBook Apps ML
> Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] removing elements and attrs from <title>
> 
> On 11/11/2010 1:44 AM, Cramer, David W (David) wrote:
> > Interesting idea about removing xml:id from titles. Try the
> > following: ...
> >
> > That seems to work...not sure if it's the best/easiest way.
> 
> Yes, that gets rid of the xml:id attr in titles.  Thanks!
> 
> > I think to remove remark you just add the following inside
> > your<include>:
> >
> > <define name="db.remark"> <notAllowed/> </define>
> 
> Sorry, I wasn't clear; I *only* want to remove <remark> from inside
> <title>, whereas the above removes it everywhere.  The problem is that
> there is something about the <title> defn in DB5 that prevents any
> changes to its content elements.  Even the ff. minimalist defn triggers
> the "interleave" error msg:
>    <define name="db.title">
>      <element name="title">
>          <text/>
>      </element>
>    </define>
> 
> BTW, the reason I want to make these two changes has to do with our
> processing to produce a PDF (what you call a "toolchain", I think).
> Our
> output method doesn't allow xrefs to titles (which is the only use
> we're
> making of xml:id).  And it appears that the LaTeX macro I cribbed for
> outputting <remark>s with a colored background (to make them easy to
> see) goes into an infinite loop when the <remark> (or the LaTeX
> \comment{} command that this gets translated into) is inside a title
> (\title{}).  Maybe I'll go back and try to figure out why the LaTeX
> macro does that, instead of prohibiting <remark>s inside <title>s...
> --
> 	Mike Maxwell