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Subject: RE: [dss] DSS-TC 22 March 2004 meeting minutes
Revised version of the 2004.03.22 meeting minutes attached: - corrections in attendee list. > -----Original Message----- > From: Dimitri Andivahis [mailto:dimitri@surety.com] > Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 6:08 PM > To: dss@lists.oasis-open.org > Cc: Dimitri Andivahis > Subject: [dss] DSS-TC 22 March 2004 meeting minutes > > > Minutes for DSS phone conference > Date: Monday, 22 March 2004 > Time: 12:00pm - 01:00pm Eastern Time >
Minutes for DSS phone conference Date: Monday, 22 March 2004 Time: 12:00pm - 01:00pm Eastern Time Attendees: Voting members: Paul Madsen, Entrust John Ross, Individual Pieter Kasselman, Betrusted Dimitri Andivahis, Surety John Messing, American Bar Association Andreas Kuehne, Individual Ed Shallow, Universal Postal Union Trevor Perrin, Individual David Finkelstein, RSA Security Frederick Hirsch, Nokia Mobile Phones Krishna Yellepeddy, IBM Nick Pope, Individual Juan Carlos Cruellas, Individual Observers: Catherine Li, Wells Fargo Agenda: 1 Welcome by chair (Juan Carlos Cruellas) 2. Confirm Minutes Secretary (Dimitri Andivahis) Confirmed. 3. Roll Call. Conducted by Juan Carlos. Quorum achieved (13 voting members). 4. Approval of Agenda Approved, no discussion. 5. Approval of Minutes of DSS TC conference call of 08 March 2004 Approved, no discussion. 6. Review of outstanding actions * 04-02-23-3 - XAdES. Juan Carlos, Nick, Ed to discuss feasibility of protocol that supports both ASN.1 and XML and report at next meeting. Done. Email messages have been sent to the list; an abstract profile will be provided soon. * 04-02-23-4 - on all. See how Policy wise server profile fits in with other profiles. Open. Paul believes that the Web Services Security profile would be a good fit with the Policy wise server abstract profile. Nick thought that a resolution should be reached soon, rather than keeping this as an ongoing open item. Paul proposed that he take owenrship of the item. ACTION 04-02-23-4(bis) - Paul to propose how Policy wise server profile fits in with other profiles. * 04-03-08-1: Trevor to add text for binding taken from WSS. Done. Trevor explained that providing a binding based on WSS is a non-trivial task (see http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/dss/200403/msg00068.html). Nick proposed to put it on the back-burner and proclaim it done. * 04-03-08-2: Trevor to add identifiers for alternative time-stamping profiles. Done. Trevor added text that explains how to use the SignatureType optional input to support requests fortimestamps generated according to specific time-stamping profiles. * 04-03-08-3: Nick to start email discussion on Statement of Intent vs CommitmentType for Entity Seal profile. Done. The feedback from the email disussion was that the CommitmentType is sufficient. * 04-03-08-4: Chairs to contact John Messing for update on Notarial profile at next meeting. Done. 7. Core and Time-stamp profile. 7.1 Outstanding issues (Nick's comment of 18/3/2004). Trevor incorporated Nick's proposal for using SAML::NameIdentifierType. (Trevor's comments http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/dss/200403/msg00068.html). Frederick and Ed expressed preference for URLs for the schema namespace URI, since they can also be used for downloading the schema. ACTION 04-03-22-1: Frederick to contact Karl Best for appropriate URL prefix for the DSS TC. Introducing binding from WSS: covered in action item review (Item 6, * 04-03-08-1). There is ongoing email discussion regarding support for External Policy Authority policy statement in requests. Ed asked for more clarity on the usage of the term "policy" in this and other contexts. The feedback from the email discussion regarding the presence of RequestID was to keep it. (Trevor's comment http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/dss/200403/msg00056.html). Some participants thought that including support for asynchronous request in the core might require a major update and would delay issuance of a committe draft. 7.2 Approval of both documents as Committee Drafts. References: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/dss/download.php/5815/oasis-dss-1.0-core-spec-wd-15.doc http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/dss/download.php/5912/oasis-dss-1.0-profiles-timestamping-spec-wd-06.doc Nick believes the documents should proceed to Committee Draft status as this would indicate to people outside the TC that the documents are stable enough. Changes to the documents could still be incorporated in subsequent Committee Draft versions. A possible added benefit is feedback from implementors. Frederick supported resolving the outstanding issues before proceeding to CD approval. Trevor supported resolving the two outstanding isssues of External Policy Authority policy and asynchronous requests first. Krishna proposed waiting until the documents remain unchanged for two successive meetings. Ed thought that other issues affecting the core document may arise in the discussion of the XAdES profile. He also thought that work on profiles helped validate the core document, but was not certain that core and profiles have been fully delineated. John Messing thought that promoting the documents to CD status would be good for momentum. The issue was tabled for the next meeting, with the hope that the ongoing email discussion on the topics of contention will bring the TC closer to a resolution. 8. Discussion on profiles. Report on the status of the work for each of the profiles. - Code-signing http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/dss/download.php/5967/oasis-dss-1.0-profiles-codesigning-spec-wd-01.doc Pieter reported on the proposal for supporting asynchronous behavior, and the ongoing discussion as to where it would go (profile/core). - Entity seal http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/dss/download.php/5924/oasis-dss-1.0-profiles-eseal-spec-wd-02.doc Nick reported that a second version of the schema was issued with some outstanding issues (additional text requested inline in the document). - Policy wise server http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/dss/download.php/5508/oasis-dss-1.0-pws-profile-spec-wd-01.doc No discussion. - XAdES http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/dss/download.php/5810/oasis-dss-1%5B1%5D.0-profiles-XAdES-spec-wd-01.doc Juan Carlos reported that an abstract profile will be provided within a few days. - German Signature Law <http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/dss/download.php/6023/oasis-dss-1.0-pws-German Signature Law-spec-wd-01.doc> Andreas reported on the work in progress; a schema will be provided within a week. - EPM Ed expects to have a proposal ready by the end of the month, taking into account the discussion on the XAdES profile. - Wsecurity No discussion. - Judicial signing INAUDIBLE. - Notarial John reported that the legalXML eNotarization TC is still in the early stages of determining requirements and considering use cases. 9 Work plan. 9.1 Plans for the rest of the profiles. Skipped, no discussion. 9.2 Discussion on implementation plans. Skipped, no discussion. 10. Organizing documents in the TC webserver. It was proposed that website documents be organized in two folders, one folder for the core documents, and one folder for profiles, and that the documents for each profile be placed in a separate subfolder of the profiles folder. However, it is not clear if the website administration tools support creating subfolders within a folder. If subfolders are not a possibiliy, each profile would have its own folder next to the core folder. ACTION 04-03-22-2: Chairs to investigate TC website capabilities for grouping core and profile documents. 11. Any other business No discussion. 12. Confirm next conference call: 5th April 04 Confirmed. Close Submitted by: Dimitri Andivahis, Surety dimitri@surety.com
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