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Subject: Re: [ebsoa] Draft Minutes from F2F

Further to my response, what we desire is an SOA reference model that 
also contains a section on conformance and is written as a standard, 
possibly using conventions such as the RFC 2119 keywords etc. 


> Diane Mularz wrote:
>> Actually an SOA Reference Model does exist.  It has been published by 
>> the
>> CBDI Forum. http://www.cbdiforum.com. The first part appeared in 
>> their March
>> 2004 journal and the second in June 2004.  Unfortunately I cannot 
>> release
>> that information to you since it has been acquired through a paid 
>> corporate
>> subscription.  Suggest that you try to contact the organization 
>> directly for
>> further information.
>> Regards,
>> Diane Mularz
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Duane Nickull [mailto:dnickull@adobe.com] Sent: Wednesday, 
>> December 01, 2004 11:08 AM
>> To: ebsoa@lists.oasis-open.org
>> Subject: [ebsoa] Draft Minutes from F2F
>> Apologize for the late message.  My OASIS account had been 
>> accidentally deleted and messages I sent through did not get onto the 
>> list.
>> By now most of you have probably read the draft minutes from the face 
>> to face.  Based on the information we have learned since starting 
>> this TC, it is now obvious that before anyone can develop a 
>> specialized SOA, a higher level SOA Reference Model needs to be 
>> defined.  No such Reference Model exists today, therefore, it would 
>> be imprudent to continue to work in our current direction without 
>> starting the high level reference model.  Please review the minutes 
>> before reading further.
>> Since there is limited resources in the TC, the members present at 
>> the F2F decided to focus on the SOA Reference Model first.  Such work 
>> is inconsistent with our charter so we have a hurdle to get over.  
>> OASIS will help us with that.
>> There are a number of questions that we do have to consider.
>> 1. Political impact of our decision - It is the intent of the TC that 
>> no SPINS be placed on our decision.  It is a simple decision taken 
>> based on technical knowledge and a pragmatic TC that recognizes and 
>> is willing to face the architectural challenges that are laid out in 
>> front of us.  I personally would hope that no one thinks we are 
>> abandoning either ebXML or web service standards.  That is not the 
>> intent.  There is a strong recognition that an SOA reference model 
>> may also help anyone trying to converge or reconcile those two stacks.
>> 2. We anticipate that the SOA reference model work should be 
>> relatively short and completed within a new TC.  We drafted a new TC 
>> charter and will be working with OASIS to figure out how to start the 
>> new TC.  In the process,  we have to also figure out what course 
>> should happen with this existing TC.  We have a few options:
>> a. Have members who wish to work on the current charter continue to 
>> develop the existing work under the existing charter.
>> b. Fold the current TC; or
>> c. Take a hiatus from activity in the current TC, then revisit it 
>> once the SOA reference model is done.
>> Any comments or interest on this would be appreciated.
>> 3. What should happen to the work within the TC?  We have a very good 
>> (IMO) reference model for architectural patterns that may be of great 
>> use for others within OASIS and beyond.
>> Our next meeting is one week from today.  Regular dial in, code is 
>> 7263329.
>> Duane Nickull

Senior Standards Strategist - Adobe Systems, Inc. - http://www.adobe.com
Vice Chair - UN/CEFACT Bureau Plenary - http://www.unece.org/cefact/
Chair - OASIS eb SOA TC - http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=ebsoa

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