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Subject: RE: [ebxml-msg] persistDuration


Title: persistDuration
Doug:
 
The MessageId value is required to be unique.  We mean globally, universally and forevermore unique.  Based on that requirement, a duplicate message should never be created except as part of retries for reliable messaging (or through a faulty transfer). 
 
[Jacques Durand] Understood. This requirement for global uniqueness of messageID might deserve a more explicit statement, as RFC2392 could be interpreted mostly as a format requirement. (also, maybe we should recommend an ID method : date & time stamp with sender host domain name, or support in existing languages, like Java UID function in server package)
 
Another issue related to time: I think the current wording makes the handling of different time zones (message sent in one zone and received in another zone) error prone (3.1.6.4). The XML Schema dateTime does not necessarily mandate the use of UTC. I think we should make it more explicit that the canonical representation of dateTime should be used:  the sender should either append its time zone (difference with UTC) to its local time, or use the UTC time (appended with "Z"). (as required for other MS timestamps), Then, I would rephrase:

 " In this context, the TimeToLive has expired if the time of the internal clock of the Receiving MSH is greater than the value of TimeToLive for the message.
 
 
as:
 
In this context, the TimeToLive has expired if the time of the internal clock of the Receiving MSH , adjusted as UTC time, is greater than the value of TimeToLive for the message adjusted as UTC time.
 
(or maybe we should say somewhere more generally that all time comparisons apply to UTC version of the time/date)
 
Otherwise, some users/vendors of a careless MSH will have some surprise when sending "reliable" messages to Japan (receiver MSH will likely discard them all !)
 
regards,
 
Jacques Durand


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