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Subject: Re: [idtrust-ms] STORK 2 - EU cross-border identity pilot projects


+1 to Pim, and I expect Laurent may wish to have a look at the referral terms to our French correspondent.  J

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On May 13, 2011, at 12:41 PM, "Pim van der Eijk" <pim.vandereijk@oasis-open.org> wrote:

> 
> 
> When the EU Commission project officer for STORK learned
> about BDX,  he told me it could be a model for STORK, so it
> is good that this is opportunity is now arising.  The STORK
> SAML profile is based on earlier input from ENISA and
> related work on e-authentication in Europe.  This work was
> presented to the Security Services TC in 2007 and at an
> OASIS Fall conference in London.    
> 
> The request for OASIS to participate in projects to provide
> expertise has come up many times in the past but there was
> no formal framework to support this model. Recently, OASIS
> has set up a relation with a not-for-profit organization in
> France which is able to act as legal entity in EU contracts
> and would be able to subcontract any experts work.  Since
> this relation is now established (and to be announced soon),
> we should use this structure to support this. 
> 
> Pim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anil Saldhana [mailto:Anil.Saldhana@redhat.com] 
> Sent: 13 May 2011 21:18
> To: peter@peterfbrown.com
> Cc: laurent.liscia@oasis-open.org; hal.lockhart@oracle.com;
> Jamie.clark@oasis-open.org; idtrust-ms@lists.oasis-open.org;
> egov-ms@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: Re: [idtrust-ms] STORK 2 - EU cross-border identity
> pilot projects
> 
> Hal,
> do you know if there is any precedence to hiring standards
> experts on contractual basis via Oasis?
> 
> I would presume we just have to request someone from the
> SAML TC who is in Europe to be the liaison.
> 
> Regards,
> Anil
> 
> On 05/13/2011 09:48 AM, Peter F Brown wrote:
>> OK,
>> 
>> So the main question is: Who feels that they could provide
> 
>> authoritative input and advice to the STORK 2 project,
> particularly with regard to SAML?
>> 
>> If we can get a name, I’d be happy to provide the liaison
> with the 
>> proposed STORK 2 consortium to get them on board. But we
> have to be 
>> quick, as the deadline is looming….
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> And, yes, there is contractual money involved
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Laurent M. Liscia
> [mailto:laurent.liscia@oasis-open.org]
>> Sent: Friday, 13 May, 2011 07:25
>> To: peter@peterfbrown.com
>> Cc: 'Anil Saldhana'; hal.lockhart@oracle.com; 
>> Jamie.clark@oasis-open.org
>> Subject: Re: FW: STORK 2
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you Peter (what are you doing up so early?), For
> once I can 
>> speak for OASIS since this is a bit of an admin issue.
>> OASIS does not possess IPR per se - our members do; that's
> why, even 
>> when we are members of another org, we contribute no IPR.
> But we do 
>> have people representing us in "consortia" or large-scale
> projects, 
>> such as STORK. I think SIENA is exactly like STORK and we
> have Gershon 
>> Janssen and John Borras speaking on behalf of OASIS: they
> provide advice and act as liaisons.
>> That is completely feasible. If Anil or Hal care to do the
> same ...
>> Finally it seems to me that the end-game is to get these
> guys to 
>> standardize their output in OASIS as per the PEPPOL
> example.
>> 
>> 
>> On 5/12/2011 6:00 PM, Peter F Brown wrote:
>> 
>> Hmmm,
>> 
>> Is there anything we can do with this?
>> 
>> Would SAML be interested and/or able to take this up? And
> how would we 
>> handle the legal/contractual issues of ‘OASIS’ as an
> entity joining 
>> such a consortium…
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Alicia Garcia Medina
> [mailto:alicia.garcia@atosresearch.eu]
>> Sent: Wednesday, 11 May, 2011 14:54
>> To: Alicia Garcia Medina; peter@peterfbrown.com
>> Cc: Peter Kustor ; Alberto Crespo Garcia; Ana Maria
> Piñuela Marcos; 
>> miguel.alvarez@mpr.es; Riedl Reinhard; 
>> Neil.Clowes@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk;
>> Reinhard Posch
>> Subject: RE: STORK 2
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dear Peter,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have communicated to the core team your interest and
> some question 
>> arises since in STORK we do not create standards but
> support 
>> standardisation and we would need technical advice on
> WP4´s SAML profile.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Could you please indicate to me who would participate as
> legal entity? 
>> Is OASIS a legal entity or will it be a company?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I copy in this message WP4 leader (Miguel) and WP6
> co-leaders 
>> (Reinhard and
>> Neil) so you all can check if this fits in STORK 2.0.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Alicia.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Peter F Brown [mailto:peter@peterfbrown.com]
>> Sent: martes, 10 de mayo de 2011 19:57
>> To: 'Reinhard Posch'
>> Cc: 'Peter Kustor '; Alicia Garcia Medina
>> Subject: RE: STORK 2
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Reinhard, thanks for the prompt reply.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Indeed, the project is about pilots and with an extended
> scope as you 
>> say, with health sector and banking.
>> 
>> Our concern, as OASIS, would be to see what role we can
> play in 
>> facilitating the development of new – or greater take-up
> of existing – 
>> standards in this project. As you know, we have a new TC
> set up to 
>> pursue work for PEPPOL (the OASIS BDX TC) that will
> hopefully provide 
>> a durable standard beyond the lifetime of that large-scale
> pilot – so 
>> the main question is: has STORK identified a “gap in the
> market” of IDM standards that needs to be filled?
>> If the answer is yes, then our participation could be
> helpful; if no, 
>> then it would be a different issue.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All the best,
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Reinhard Posch [mailto:reinhard.posch@cio.gv.at]
>> Sent: Monday, 09 May, 2011 21:34
>> To: peter@peterfbrown.com
>> Cc: Peter Kustor
>> Subject: Re: STORK 2
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> .. indeed June 1st is very near. On the question of
> technicality of 
>> joining this late
>> 
>> Alicia Garcia Medina<alicia.garcia@atosresearch.eu>  from
> ATOS could 
>> give
>> 
>> you more details.
>> 
>> Then it would come to what is OASIS bringing to the
> pilots. It is 
>> pilots - having
>> 
>> said this I mean that it is about interoperability of
> existing eID of 
>> Member States
>> 
>> also with flavors like using them in the private sector
> like banks and 
>> heath care.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Was nice to hear from you
>> 
>> Reinhard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Am 10.05.2011 um 01:40 schrieb Peter F Brown:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I was talking last week in Brussels with Jean-Francois
> Junger at the 
>> European Commission and he mentioned the current CfP for
> the next 
>> phase of STORK.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> He suggested that OASIS, as a standards organisation
> active in IDM, 
>> ought to consider joining the proposed new consortium, and
> help with 
>> the delivery of standards to be used in the STORK.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Any thoughts on the matter? Is it realistic, given that
> the deadline 
>> is 1st June?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards from (not so sunny) Los Angeles
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Peter F Brown
>> 
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