FW: Svar: RE: [egov-services] eGov Service Subcommitteecharterbrainstorm 1/31/02

["Lewis, Diane" <Diane.Lewis@usdoj.gov>]

resent just to make sure we all received this message. dl

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From: Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga [mailto:rkthunga@interposting.com]
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**NOTE:  I have homework to do getting thorough with the current XMLWG
(xml.gov) initiatives of the US Government before our next TC meeting, but
here are some of my thoughts, based on this thread.  

I feel that's where it would actually help identify by particular agency
group within the service definition AS NECESSARY.  I think we can achieve a
consistent level of semantic consistency through this inclusion.

US government service:  public health - FDA
	<illness prevention
	<immunization management
	< public health monitoring

US government service:  public health - Homeland Security
	<anthrax vaccination
	<smallpox vaccination

Michael:  we could further clarify the breakdown a bit later offline,
perhaps with specific example (I didn't quite grasp the 2 phases clearly you
mentioned at the beginning).

Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Bang Kjeldgaard [mailto:mbk@itst.dk] 
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Subject: RE: Svar: RE: [egov-services] eGov Service Subcommitteecharter
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Ooops. The logic behind that may be that diffent people put different
logics into that specific mapping. Eg the Finnish think, "well this has
to do with "controlling the health of immigrant"" whereas others might
think "well this has to do with "my health"".

Michael

>>> "Lewis, Diane" <Diane.Lewis@usdoj.gov> 31-01-2003 21:16:04 >>>
The Enterprise government services portal of the EU  Finland places the
health care function under Expatriate .. along with immigration...  dl

-----Original Message-----
From: Lewis, Diane 
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Subject: RE: Svar: RE: [egov-services] eGov Service Subcommittee
charter
brainstorm 1/31/02


OK..
here is a possible mapping..

US government service:  public health
	<illness prevention
	<immunization management
	< public health monitoring

EU government service: Social issues 
				Health Care

What common sub functions fall under these services and in turn what
common "form" data is collected in association with performing these
government services?  dl

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Bang Kjeldgaard [mailto:mbk@itst.dk] 
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 3:06 PM
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Subject: Svar: RE: [egov-services] eGov Service Subcommittee charter
brainstorm 1/31/02


OK, if you look at my proposals regarding goals you can see I talk
about
making priorities. In Denmark we have made some diffiretnt analytical
work regarding potential of digitalizing eg forms. Factors vary from
number of form transactions to level of inter-agency use to complexty
and need for signatur or other formal needs that complicate
digitalization.

I think it will be an important achievement if we can somehow qualify
the database with the mapping with this kind of information about
possible effects, value-added or barriers. Further more we could maybe
identify which services (forms/data) are most relevant in across
national borders such as visa applications and tax.

Michael

>>> "Lewis, Diane" <Diane.Lewis@usdoj.gov> 31-01-2003 20:55:21 >>>
Ok... 45 minutes into our dialogue we have the following..draft:

Purpose:

The purpose of the eGov Services subcommittee is to identify and map
existing government services
functions and data with technical standards from an integrated service
delivery perspective.  The
> The resulting mappings will show the information or services
integrated according to function or topic, **in addition to** agency
jurisdiction." >

Goals:

<MBK: 
- Identify common needs regarding standardisation of informations
objects and dataelement. 
- Formulate a common methodology regarding analysys of form, documents
and processes (dataneeds)
- Formulate a common methodology for defining priorities
- Achieve a minimum level of consensus on priorities in order to
coordinate work done in many different organisations in order to share
knowledge as well as achievements (datadefinitions)>



-----Original Message-----
From: Lewis, Diane 
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Subject: RE: [egov-services] eGov Service Subcommittee charter
brainstorm 1/31/02


That's it one of our deliverables.... dl

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Tuduc [mailto:tomtuduc@webarches.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 2:36 PM
To: Lewis, Diane; 'egov-services(a)lists.oasis-open.org'
Subject: RE: [egov-services] eGov Service Subcommittee charter
brainstorm 1/31/02



The mapping will be as complete as the white
page/yellow pages of government services that exist. 

After identifying these sources, we can "XML-tize"
them using OASIS templates.

-TT

--- "Lewis, Diane" <Diane.Lewis@usdoj.gov> wrote:
> What is our purpose??
> 
> <DL: The purpose of the eGov Services subcommittee
> is to identify and map existing government services,
> functions and data with technical standards from an
> integrated service delivery perspective.  The
> resulting mappings will show the information or
> services integrated according to function or topic
> rather than separated according to boundaries of
> agency jurisdiction. >
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lewis, Diane 
> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 2:10 PM
> To: 'egov-services@lists.oasis-open.org' 
> Subject: [egov-services] eGov Service Subcommittee
> charter brainstorm
> 1/31/02
> 
> 
> Statement of Purpose  (review eGov TC charter)
> 
> OASIS text:    A forum for Governments
> internationally to voice their needs and
>                     requirements with respect to
> XML-based standards. 
> 
> where does our subcommittee work tie into the eGov
> TC charter..
> 
> <DL:  work with other OASIS channels and other
> international standards bodies' channels
>  (e.g. XML.org for schema registry and/or
> information portal), to act as a clearinghouse of
> information related to applicable
> specifications/standards as well as activities and
> projects being conducted by Governments in the
> adoption of XML-based systems and                   
>     standards. >
> 
> 
> 
> Goals of the Sub-TC  (what do we want to
> accomplish?)
> 
> 
> 
> List of deliverables  (purpose/content of each
> identified deliverable)
> 

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