Re: FW: NOTICE: message to egov@lists.oasis-open.org rejected

[john.borras@e-envoy.gsi.gov.uk]

Sinisa

First, you are recorded now as a member so you should be able to post to the mailing list.

Second, we are about to establish an Infrastructure sub-committee which Eliot Christian will be leading and Workflow standards will fall under that remit.  So I'm copying him into this to note your comments and consider BPML.  When we set up the new SC you make care to join it to contribute to the discussions.

Regards,
John

"Zimek, Sinisa" <sinisa.zimek@sap.com> 11/03/2003 00:45

To:        "'john.borras@e-envoy.gsi.gov.uk'" <john.borras@e-envoy.gsi.gov.uk>         cc:                 Subject:        FW: NOTICE: message to egov@lists.oasis-open.org rejected

Hi John,
would you please forward the attached email to the e-gov list. Since I'm not a member, the mail was returned.

Thanks,

> Sinisa Zimek
> Director Technology Architecture & Standards
> SAP Labs, Inc.
> 
> 3475 Deer Creek Road
> Palo Alto, CA 94304
> T (650) 849-2647
> F (561) 258-8588
> E sinisa.zimek@sap.com
> www.saplabs.com


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----- Message from "Zimek, Sinisa" <sinisa.zimek@sap.com> on Tue, 11 Mar 2003 01:42:01 +0100 -----

To:	"'Michael.Roytman@vertexinc.com'" <Michael.Roytman@vertexinc.com>, tax@lists.oasis-open.org
cc:	"'egov@lists.oasis-open.org'" <egov@lists.oasis-open.org>
Subject:	RE: [tax] [egov] OASIS E-GOV TC - DELIVERABLES

I was just looking at the attached e-Government standards matrix and wanted to recommend to consider BPMI.org as a standard body for workflow and process integration.

BPMI.org is an industry forum which has developed and is holding one of the most mature specifications in the business process space, called BPML. You can find futher information on BPMI.org as well as their work at www.bpmi.org.

If you need furhter information or have any questions, please let me know.

Best regards,
Sinisa Zimek

> Sinisa Zimek
> Director Technology Architecture & Standards
> SAP Labs, Inc.
> 
> 3475 Deer Creek Road
> Palo Alto, CA 94304
> T (650) 849-2647
> F (561) 258-8588
> E sinisa.zimek@sap.com
> www.saplabs.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael.Roytman@vertexinc.com
[mailto:Michael.Roytman@vertexinc.com]
Sent: DMon, Mar 10, 2003 5:54 AM
To: tax@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [tax] [egov] OASIS E-GOV TC - DELIVERABLES


Tax XML TC,

I thought you might be interested that we've been listed in the
e-Government standards matrix as an entity responsible for the Tax aspects.
I believe this puts us on the critical path for the success of e-Government
TC. We will need to establish a formal liaison with e-Government TC even
though we have individuals participating in both Tax and e-Government TCs.

Thanks,

Michael.

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Diane

Thanks for an interesting discussion yesterday.  It set me thinking about
what is the ultimate output from the TC, hence I'm copying in the whole
membership on this note.

We talked a lot about the need for matrices of services and standards, and
I believe that is ultimately what we should as a TC be aiming to produce
and publish - a set of matrices for Services/Functions, Infrastructures etc
that show for each particular aspect of e-government our recommended
standards.  This would be invaluable to governments, particularly those
that are new to the e-government work, and those communities of governments
like us in the EU who are looking to join up on service delivery.  Clearly
we cannot mandate these standards but it would send clear messages to
governments around the world, and their IT suppliers, which are the
standards they should give serious consideration to.

On that basis I've sketched out a matrix for your Services focus along the
lines of what we discussed yesterday, and one for what I'm calling
Infrastructures.  This is a first cut and we can develop it and add to it
as we go.  I will be suggesting to the TC on Wednesday that we need another
Sub-committee to address the infrastructure issues.    The role of both
these SCs would in effect be to populate these matrices, and that of course
will require looking at what's the current standard if any , whose doing
what, where are the gaps that need new work and instigating that work, etc
as we discussed yesterday.

I see the role of the Best Practices SC to then produce case studies on as
many of these aspects as possible and they can be cross-referenced in the
matrices.  The ebXML/Web Services SC would feed into many aspects of the
matrices both as solutions to services and also aspects of infrastructure.

As I said I'll add this to the agenda for the TC meeting on Wednesday as I
think it would help us all if we had an agreed vision of the end point of
our work.   Views in the interim from all would be welcomed.

Apologies that this is only in Word format but I haven't got Open Office on
my laptop.

Regards,
John
(See attached file: e-gov TC Matrix.doc)