egov message
[Date Prev]
| [Thread Prev]
| [Thread Next]
| [Date Next]
--
[Date Index]
| [Thread Index]
| [List Home]
Subject: Re: [egov] OASIS E-GOV TC : ebXML Messaging BALLOT RESULT
- From: John.Borras@e-Envoy.gsi.gov.uk
- To: "Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com>
- Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 07:47:03 +0000
Joe
We've discussed and reviewed this document
at several meetings spread over the last 6 months and even the final draft
was put our to the TC for comments before reaching this voting stage.
Also the wording of the voting resolution is in my opinion very explicit.
So I fail to see how you can say people might not be clear
what they are voting for.
One of the main objectives of the TC
is to agree government requirements for standards and then seek the best
way of getting those requirements delivered. this is an excellent
example of that. We have (or soon will have I hope) through this
document an agreed requirement which we can take to other TCs to discuss
implementation. So this document itself is not going to become an
OASIS standard, it's a feed into one(s) produced by other TCs.
I hope on reflection you will be able
to support the resolution, if not I can only suggest you vote against it
or abstain.
Regards,
John
"Chiusano Joseph"
<chiusano_joseph@bah.com>
12/02/2004 15:45
|
To
| John.Borras@e-Envoy.gsi.gov.uk
|
cc
| egov@lists.oasis-open.org
|
Subject
| Re: [egov] OASIS E-GOV TC
: ebXML Messaging BALLOT RESULT |
|
John,
I certainly understand your frustration. I suspect part of the issue
with the ebXML Messaging document is that folks might not be clear on
exactly what they are voting on (while acknowledging the description in
the vote ballot) - the accuracy of the concepts, compliance with ebMS
2.0, etc. Also, what does having our TC's vote on this document (while
recognizing the value of our TC) say? That we approved the concepts?
That the members believe that ebMS should always be the first choice of
a messaging protocol in any federal project?
For example, I might have an issue with the following quote, particular
the word "single":
"The aim of the use of ebXML Messaging within Government is to provide
a
single open-standards based enveloping and messaging protocol technology
that can be used for Service Delivery Requests and Response between all
the architectural components which interact within e-Government Service
Delivery.
Does this imply that, if I vote to approve this document, I believe that
(while acknowledging what an excellent standard ebMS 2.0 is) there
should be no other possible choices? In my professional position, my
duty is to remain vendor- and standards- agnostic, regardless of what
standards I am involved with creating, and how I feel about certain
standards.
So I hope that given this information, you might be able to clarify
further exactly what we're voting on, and the ramifications of that
vote.
Kind Regards,
Joe
John.Borras@e-Envoy.gsi.gov.uk wrote:
>
> It is with great regret that I have to tell you that we did
not reach
> quorum on the recent ballot on Graham Beaver's document. Only
15 out
> of 41 members took the time to vote. I won't name and shame
those
> who didn't vote.
>
> This I find deeply disappointing, firstly for Graham and the excellent
> effort he put into the document, and secondly for the future of our
> TC. This was our first ballot and we fell at the first hurdle.
That
> doesn't inspire confidence for our future work. Hopefully this
will
> turn out to be just teething troubles and once we all get the hang
of
> voting then we'll be OK in future. If not well.......
>
> I'm going to re-run this ballot and also put up a ballot on Eliot's
> Interoperability Services paper. Please take the time to vote
this
> time.
>
> John
PLEASE NOTE: THE ABOVE MESSAGE WAS RECEIVED FROM THE INTERNET.
On entering the GSI, this email was scanned for viruses by the Government
Secure Intranet (GSI) virus scanning service supplied exclusively by Energis
Communications in partnership with MessageLabs.
GSI users see http://www.gsi.gov.uk/main/notices/information/gsi-003-2002.pdf
for further details. In case of problems, please call your organisational
IT helpdesk.
[Date Prev]
| [Thread Prev]
| [Thread Next]
| [Date Next]
--
[Date Index]
| [Thread Index]
| [List Home]