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Subject: RE: [egov] Re: [emergency] FYI: IBM, HP Release Proposed Web Services Standard

The following can be found on the GGF website:

"OASIS develops Web Services standards that enable dynamic
distributed systems. The GGF develops standards for Grid Computing,
including the Open Grid Services Infrastructure (OGSI) . A set of draft
specifications revising OGSI has been created that leverages
technology from both the GGF and OASIS. OASIS and the GGF have
agreed to work together on open review and revisions of the
specifications as part of an effort to connect more closely the Grid and
Web Services communities."

I've not noticed any similar announcement on the OASIS lists though - or
have I missed something?


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rex Brooks [mailto:rexb@starbourne.com] 
> Sent: 21 January 2004 16:38
> To: creed@opengis.org; emergency@lists.oasis-open.org
> Cc: wsrp@lists.oasis-open.org; huml@lists.oasis-open.org; 
> egov@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: [egov] Re: [emergency] FYI: IBM, HP Release Proposed 
> Web Services Standard
> Hi Carl, Everyone,
> I noticed this, too. Last week we had the eventing spec 
> mentioned below that included a notification element using 
> subscription with "event source" and "event sink" which I 
> expressed some disapproval for, though with some approval for 
> as well, in the WSRP lists, favoring instead the simpler 
> "sender/receiver" model from a previous paper. This week we 
> have a notification spec. The eventual merging of these two 
> offerings is mentioned in the report. In particular, with 
> regard to how this merging is likely to occur, I wonder why 
> this effort is not being conducted within a standards body.
> Ciao,
> Rex
> At 8:31 AM -0500 1/21/04, creed@opengis.org wrote:
> >IBM, HP Release Proposed Web Services Standard Jan. 20, 2004
> >
> >More Stories on:
> >Software
> >
> >WS-Notification provides a mechanism for standards-based 
> communications 
> >of events within a network of computer systems.
> >By Antone Gonsalves, TechWeb News
> >   
> >IBM, Hewlett-Packard, and other high-tech companies on 
> Tuesday released 
> >a Web services specification for interoperability between systems 
> >within a supply chain, grid computing, and an infrastructure 
> management 
> >environment.
> >WS-Notification provides a mechanism for standards-based 
> communications 
> >of events within a network of computer systems.
> >Examples could include an application notifying another that 
> a purchase 
> >order has been accepted, or that data is ready for download. Until 
> >recently, communicating such "events" between business 
> applications was 
> >done through proprietary messaging systems.
> >
> >The same computing need within a web services architecture is being 
> >addressed by Microsoft, BEA Systems, Tibco Software, and 
> others through 
> >a separate specification called WS-Eventing. IBM stressed that the 
> >groups aren't competing, but are taking different approaches.
> >
> >The priorities of IBM and its partners focus on allowing message 
> >brokers, such IBM MQSeries, to be present between the event 
> publisher 
> >and the subscriber within a network, in addition to managing 
> all other 
> >notifications and the end points.
> >
> >In addition, IBM is interested in supporting its grid-computing 
> >initiative, which needed notification to work. Grid computing is the 
> >sharing of processing power across a network so that all machines 
> >function as one larger supercomputer.
> >
> >Although Microsoft and its partners are focused on a 
> different set of 
> >priorities and products, analysts expect the technologies 
> from the two 
> >camps to eventually be brought together into one specification. "I 
> >don't believe we're going to see a battle here,"
> >said Ron Schmelzer, an analyst for high-tech researcher ZapThink.
> >
> >Karla Norsworthy, director of E-business technology for IBM, 
> confirmed 
> >that IBM intends to eventually merge the specifications, although 
> >there's no timetable. "We're quite confident that we can 
> converge these 
> >technologies," Norsworthy said. "We can figure out how the Eventing 
> >specification fits into the larger picture that we're 
> drawing. It may 
> >require some changes to both specifications, and we're 
> anxious to roll 
> >up our sleeves and get to work."
> >
> >In building WS-Notification, the companies incorporated integration 
> >with Web services management technologies under development 
> by Oasis, 
> >an international standards body, and standards under 
> development by the 
> >Global Grid Forum, Norsworthy said.
> >
> >While specification work appears to be progressing, 
> businesses may have 
> >to wait a bit for product incorporating these standards. While the 
> >vendors plan to ship product, most are at the stage of letting the 
> >specifications provide the guide to their overall technology 
> >strategies.
> >
> >"IBM (for example) has a logical plan for tying all this together," 
> >Schmelzer said. "This specification is aimed at contributing to that 
> >cohesive framework."
> >
> >Besides WS-Notification, IBM, HP, Sonic Software, and Tibco released 
> >WS-Resources Framework, a description of how to handle application 
> >communications related to expiration of contracts and service level 
> >agreements, deleting products from inventory systems and other 
> >processes.
> >
> >
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