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Subject: RE: [egov] Re: [emergency] FYI: IBM, HP Release Proposed WebServices Standard
I haven't seen such a notice, but I may have missed it, too. Ciao, Rex At 2:43 PM +0000 1/22/04, Matthew J. Dovey wrote: >The following can be found on the GGF website: > >"OASIS develops Web Services standards that enable dynamic >distributed systems. The GGF develops standards for Grid Computing, >including the Open Grid Services Infrastructure (OGSI) . A set of draft >specifications revising OGSI has been created that leverages >technology from both the GGF and OASIS. OASIS and the GGF have >agreed to work together on open review and revisions of the >specifications as part of an effort to connect more closely the Grid and >Web Services communities." > >I've not noticed any similar announcement on the OASIS lists though - or >have I missed something? > >Matthew > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rex Brooks [mailto:rexb@starbourne.com] >> Sent: 21 January 2004 16:38 >> To: creed@opengis.org; emergency@lists.oasis-open.org >> Cc: wsrp@lists.oasis-open.org; huml@lists.oasis-open.org; >> egov@lists.oasis-open.org >> Subject: [egov] Re: [emergency] FYI: IBM, HP Release Proposed >> Web Services Standard >> >> Hi Carl, Everyone, >> >> I noticed this, too. Last week we had the eventing spec >> mentioned below that included a notification element using >> subscription with "event source" and "event sink" which I >> expressed some disapproval for, though with some approval for >> as well, in the WSRP lists, favoring instead the simpler >> "sender/receiver" model from a previous paper. This week we >> have a notification spec. The eventual merging of these two >> offerings is mentioned in the report. In particular, with >> regard to how this merging is likely to occur, I wonder why >> this effort is not being conducted within a standards body. >> >> Ciao, >> Rex >> >> At 8:31 AM -0500 1/21/04, creed@opengis.org wrote: >> >IBM, HP Release Proposed Web Services Standard Jan. 20, 2004 >> > >> >More Stories on: >> >Software >> > >> >WS-Notification provides a mechanism for standards-based >> communications >> >of events within a network of computer systems. >> >By Antone Gonsalves, TechWeb News >> > >> >IBM, Hewlett-Packard, and other high-tech companies on >> Tuesday released >> >a Web services specification for interoperability between systems >> >within a supply chain, grid computing, and an infrastructure >> management >> >environment. >> >WS-Notification provides a mechanism for standards-based >> communications >> >of events within a network of computer systems. >> >Examples could include an application notifying another that >> a purchase >> >order has been accepted, or that data is ready for download. Until >> >recently, communicating such "events" between business >> applications was >> >done through proprietary messaging systems. >> > >> >The same computing need within a web services architecture is being >> >addressed by Microsoft, BEA Systems, Tibco Software, and >> others through >> >a separate specification called WS-Eventing. IBM stressed that the >> >groups aren't competing, but are taking different approaches. >> > >> >The priorities of IBM and its partners focus on allowing message >> >brokers, such IBM MQSeries, to be present between the event >> publisher >> >and the subscriber within a network, in addition to managing >> all other >> >notifications and the end points. >> > >> >In addition, IBM is interested in supporting its grid-computing >> >initiative, which needed notification to work. Grid computing is the >> >sharing of processing power across a network so that all machines >> >function as one larger supercomputer. >> > >> >Although Microsoft and its partners are focused on a >> different set of >> >priorities and products, analysts expect the technologies >> from the two >> >camps to eventually be brought together into one specification. "I > > >don't believe we're going to see a battle here," >> >said Ron Schmelzer, an analyst for high-tech researcher ZapThink. >> > >> >Karla Norsworthy, director of E-business technology for IBM, >> confirmed >> >that IBM intends to eventually merge the specifications, although >> >there's no timetable. "We're quite confident that we can >> converge these >> >technologies," Norsworthy said. "We can figure out how the Eventing >> >specification fits into the larger picture that we're >> drawing. It may >> >require some changes to both specifications, and we're >> anxious to roll >> >up our sleeves and get to work." >> > >> >In building WS-Notification, the companies incorporated integration >> >with Web services management technologies under development >> by Oasis, >> >an international standards body, and standards under >> development by the >> >Global Grid Forum, Norsworthy said. >> > >> >While specification work appears to be progressing, >> businesses may have >> >to wait a bit for product incorporating these standards. While the >> >vendors plan to ship product, most are at the stage of letting the >> >specifications provide the guide to their overall technology >> >strategies. >> > >> >"IBM (for example) has a logical plan for tying all this together," >> >Schmelzer said. "This specification is aimed at contributing to that >> >cohesive framework." >> > >> >Besides WS-Notification, IBM, HP, Sonic Software, and Tibco released >> >WS-Resources Framework, a description of how to handle application >> >communications related to expiration of contracts and service level >> >agreements, deleting products from inventory systems and other >> >processes. >> > >> > >> >To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from >> the roster >> >of the OASIS TC), go to >> >http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/emergency/member >s/leave_workgroup.php. >> >> >> -- >> Rex Brooks >> GeoAddress: 1361-A Addison, Berkeley, CA, 94702 USA, Earth >> W3Address: http://www.starbourne.com >> Email: rexb@starbourne.com >> Tel: 510-849-2309 >> Fax: By Request >> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from >> the roster of the OASIS TC), go to >> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/egov/members/leav >e_workgroup.php. >> >> >> -- Rex Brooks GeoAddress: 1361-A Addison, Berkeley, CA, 94702 USA, Earth W3Address: http://www.starbourne.com Email: rexb@starbourne.com Tel: 510-849-2309 Fax: By Request
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