Re: [geolang-comment] Japanese ISO 3166 [was: One or two files forEnglish and French?]

[Mary Nishikawa <nisikawa@fuchinobe.oilfield.slb.com>]

Thanks, Steve.

  I was concerned about using the same published subject identifier for a 
different language and whether it would go against the semantics explicitly 
in the ISO 3166. If everyone agrees that it's OK, I will go ahead and do 
it. I think that others will follow, so it would be good to have a kind of 
"best practice" to do this kind of thing. Is it in scope for our committee 
work?

Related to  Lars Marius'  "First Proposals" you mentioned,

* Typing topics should be included (especially in the *-meta.xtm topic maps)
   for classes such as PSISET, VERSION, PUBLICATION-DATE, etc.
   Of course, this is the domain of the PubSubj TC, but they need the input
   and this committee needs something more complete for evaluation purposes.
   Suggest creating a strawman pubsubj-basic.xtm that can be merged into our
   XTMs.


I noticed that these metadata typing topics were included in the 639-meta 
and 3166-meta.xtm files even though we do not officially have these 
defined, as you mentioned. Steve, aren't these the metadata topics you 
worked on a few months ago? Even though it is not part of the first 
deliverable  of the PubSubj TC, can it be submitted to GeoLang or 
resubmitted to Pubsubj for preliminary use by GeoLang? Lars Marius also 
includes an ontopia psi.* Will this remain published by Ontopia, or will it 
be moved to the http://psi.oasis-open.org/ area?  Thanks.

Best regards,
Mary


In 639-meta.xtm and ISO 3166:

<occurrence>
                         <instanceOf>
                                 <subjectIndicatorRef 
xlink:href="#up-to-date-by"/>
                         </instanceOf>
                         <resourceData>2002-08-02</resourceData>
                 </occurrence>
                 <occurrence>
                         <instanceOf>
         *                       <subjectIndicatorRef 
xlink:href="http://psi.ontopia.net/xtm/occurrence-type/description"/>
                         </instanceOf>
                         <resourceData>A set of published subject 
indicators useful for
       identifying languages by URI. The identifiers used to identify
       the languages are URIs based on the ISO 639 standard ("Codes
       for the representation of names of languages").</resourceData>
                 </occurrence>

At 05:13 PM 8/25/2002 +0200, Steve Pepper wrote:
>At 01:56 24/08/02 +0900, Mary Nishikawa wrote:
>>Steve, yes you are right, and ISO would probably not want to add on other 
>>languages, as John mentioned so there really isn't a need. Let's say that 
>>I need to use Japanese names with the ISO set. I should use the same 
>>published subject indicators and merge my names in?
>
>It depends exactly what you want to achieve, but one thing I would 
>encourage you to do would be to create a japanese version of 
>3166-basic.xtm (the file in Lars Marius' "First Proposals..." posten on 
>August 18th that represents ISO 3166 in XTM and uses the proposed PSIs). 
>This would contain the same set of topics, with the same PSIs, and the 
>names in Japanese. Such a topic map could be used stand-alone, or merged 
>with 3166-basic.xtm, depending on the needs of the application.
>
>>Also, how about my other suggestion to delete the row for numeric codes 
>>since they are repeated in the subject indicators, anyway, and to delete 
>>the repetitive strings.
>
>I think they should be included explicitly, otherwise the subject 
>identifiers have to be processed in order to get at them.
>
>Steve
>
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