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Subject: Re: [humanmarkup-comment] Base Schema-culture
This is the address of the Schema which you can download:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/humanmarkup/files/Technical/XML.Schema/XML.Schema/
This is also a link to this url on the OASIS Humanmarkup TC website under the documents section.
We are striving to ensure that our vocabularies harmonize with the most widely accepted schools of thought for various topic areas.. The Yahoo site remains from our pre-OASIS period, called Phase 0 in the OASIS TC website. We have a fairly extensive webliography there (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/humanmarkup) in the General Info directory in the files section from that period, which included 6 months of discussion and research before we applied to and was accepted by OASIS.
Thanks for the AAT url, I have looked at it and it appears very useful.
I think the time has come for me to devote some time to reorganizing our material. Actually, I have had it scheduled for August since April, so it is more a matter of getting down to it. I have just a wee bit more work to do on my generic VRML/X3D Basic Human Models to make them ready to include in our discussions as we proceed onward to finalizing our Base Schema and seeing what develops from the semiotic experiment Len and Sylvia are working on. If you missed my announcement a couple of weeks ago, I have worked out a kind of skeleton for the facial musculature to go along with the ISO standard for Humanoid Animation as part of the VRML97 standard for inclusion in the next version which has already advanced to a single mesh from a collection of body part segments. This will allow us to agree upon kinesic bodily gestures and facial expressions to accompany our work. You can see an animated gif and download an .avi of the same sequence showing how the facial animation works: http://www.starbourne.com/X3D.html
Then I will have no excuse not to proceed with the reorganization which I have targetted to have done by late August early September.
Ciao,
Rex
At 1:05 PM -0500 8/11/02, James.Landrum wrote:Thanks for the clarifications Rex.
I must admit I have been out of touch with a number of Humanmarkup activities and the comments of late, and am admittedly a newbie in this initiative, and seem to have somehow lost sense of the thread on the issues, and would appreciate some direction.
.. Particularly, I am having difficulty locating the strawman toolkit referred to in previous posts. I will take some time today reviewing that if pointed at it.
Also, with regard for structured vocabularies and source origins for terminology, the Getty Art and Architecture Thesaurus (AAT) may be a useful resource for consideration of choice of definitions of terms applied in Humanmarkup, at least insofar as the TC deems appropriate or applicable within constraint of context.see http://www.getty.edu/research/tools/vocabulary/aat/
for example, enter keyword "culture" and then try "artifact",
Note also, for further example, that the AAT does not have base definition of "community"
Note also that a number of markup language initiatives, particularly those in the cultural heritage sector, cite AAT as an authoritative structured vocabulary (among others).
Rex Brooks wrote:
Thanks, James, I will review the material in the URLs and I am sure it will be helpful. I must admit that I was so immersed in the semiotics of the article and the resources it led to in turn, that I did not make it clear that the restriction was meant to be the most atomistic definition. I agree with you that it was a definition not description--description is the terminology of xml schema. This illustrates what may be the necessity for distinguishing between a strict huml-prefixed-namespace definition of certain terms and the more broad, and widely used definitions. I'm not saying that we need this, only that we may. By "interpreter" I was meaning semiote as defined by Sylvia Candelaria deRam previously, and I'm afraid that even in my own mind I was overlapping the semiotic experiment with the more focused discussion of the element: culture from the straw man schema. Also, and I admit that I was wrong headed in this, I was laying out the foundation for specifying particular cultures along the lines we had noodled out a little more than a year ago which would involve a hierarchy of attributes like geographical location, historical context, etc. Since our aim is to reduce miscommunication, here is a good example. I look forward to reviewing the material. I expect we will be at work on this term for a little while. This is one of the most important elements, so we need to get this one pinned down as accurately as we can. Thanks, again,Rex At 11:51 AM -0500 8/11/02, James.Landrum wrote:
A condensed definition of culture, which may perhaps be more easily be transposed into the boolean:
"Culture is shared knowledge."
In the above definition of culture, "experience" is implied, as are "behavior" and "actor."
(Note: "Interpreter", as in Rex's definition (what he calls a description) "culture is the community of interpreters that shares the same sum of experience," is too restrictive. No 2 people interpret in exactly the same way, as their individual sum of experiences are not identical, despite being part of a community; one can experience cultural manifestations without strictly interpreting them, or can misinterpret the manifestation. Salience is an issue here- e.g., meaningful interpretation of culture, or cultural behavior, implies insider knowledge. In the above definition, "shared knowledge" implies the ability to communicate meaningfully, that is to say, if one cannot transmit information meaningfully, crucial, or core, cultural knowledge is not shared. The crux of the latter point is that if there is miscommunication, cultural knowledge is not understood appropriately, if at all, and although there may be misinterpretation or miscommunication in the process of information exchange, sharing does occur- and that is culture in process).
review the following URLs for discussions on baseline definitions of culture:
Baseline Definition of Culture (WSU)
http://www.wsu.edu:8001/vcwsu/commons/topics/culture/culture-definition.html
A Definition of Culture (U. Manitoba)http://www.umanitoba.ca/faculties/arts/anthropology/courses/122/module1/culture.html
Definition of Culture (Slippery Rock University)http://www.sru.edu/depts/artsci/ges/discover/d-4-1.htm
"Culture: The learned patterns of thought and behavior characteristic of a population or society."
Marshall Soules' "Toward a Definition of Culture" (Malaspina CC)http://www.mala.bc.ca/~soules/media112/culture.htm
Culture: Some Definitions (Southern Illinois University)http://www.siu.edu/~ekachai/culture.html
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