RE: [egov-ms] RE: [idtrust-ms] STORK 2 - EU cross-border identity pilot projects

[Peter F Brown <peter@peterfbrown.com>]

Pim,
Thanks for the clarification, very helpful
Are you in contact at all with the STORK2 consortium PMO, AtosOrigin? Maybe
you could fill them in on this?
Otherwise, I'm happy to pass the info on

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Pim van der Eijk [mailto:pim.vandereijk@oasis-open.org] 
Sent: Friday, 13 May, 2011 12:41
To: 'Anil Saldhana'; peter@peterfbrown.com
Cc: laurent.liscia@oasis-open.org; hal.lockhart@oracle.com;
Jamie.clark@oasis-open.org; idtrust-ms@lists.oasis-open.org;
egov-ms@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [egov-ms] RE: [idtrust-ms] STORK 2 - EU cross-border identity pilot
projects



When the EU Commission project officer for STORK learned about BDX,  he told
me it could be a model for STORK, so it is good that this is opportunity is
now arising.  The STORK SAML profile is based on earlier input from ENISA
and related work on e-authentication in Europe.  This work was presented to
the Security Services TC in 2007 and at an
OASIS Fall conference in London.    

The request for OASIS to participate in projects to provide expertise has
come up many times in the past but there was no formal framework to support
this model. Recently, OASIS has set up a relation with a not-for-profit
organization in France which is able to act as legal entity in EU contracts
and would be able to subcontract any experts work.  Since this relation is
now established (and to be announced soon), we should use this structure to
support this. 

Pim

-----Original Message-----
From: Anil Saldhana [mailto:Anil.Saldhana@redhat.com]
Sent: 13 May 2011 21:18
To: peter@peterfbrown.com
Cc: laurent.liscia@oasis-open.org; hal.lockhart@oracle.com;
Jamie.clark@oasis-open.org; idtrust-ms@lists.oasis-open.org;
egov-ms@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [idtrust-ms] STORK 2 - EU cross-border identity pilot projects

Hal,
do you know if there is any precedence to hiring standards experts on
contractual basis via Oasis?

I would presume we just have to request someone from the SAML TC who is in
Europe to be the liaison.

Regards,
Anil

On 05/13/2011 09:48 AM, Peter F Brown wrote:
> OK,
>
> So the main question is: Who feels that they could provide

> authoritative input and advice to the STORK 2 project,
particularly with regard to SAML?
>
> If we can get a name, I’d be happy to provide the liaison
with the 
> proposed STORK 2 consortium to get them on board. But we
have to be 
> quick, as the deadline is looming….
>
>
>
> And, yes, there is contractual money involved
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> From: Laurent M. Liscia
[mailto:laurent.liscia@oasis-open.org]
> Sent: Friday, 13 May, 2011 07:25
> To: peter@peterfbrown.com
> Cc: 'Anil Saldhana'; hal.lockhart@oracle.com; 
> Jamie.clark@oasis-open.org
> Subject: Re: FW: STORK 2
>
>
>
> Thank you Peter (what are you doing up so early?), For
once I can 
> speak for OASIS since this is a bit of an admin issue.
> OASIS does not possess IPR per se - our members do; that's
why, even 
> when we are members of another org, we contribute no IPR.
But we do 
> have people representing us in "consortia" or large-scale
projects, 
> such as STORK. I think SIENA is exactly like STORK and we
have Gershon 
> Janssen and John Borras speaking on behalf of OASIS: they
provide advice and act as liaisons.
> That is completely feasible. If Anil or Hal care to do the
same ...
> Finally it seems to me that the end-game is to get these
guys to 
> standardize their output in OASIS as per the PEPPOL
example.
>
>
> On 5/12/2011 6:00 PM, Peter F Brown wrote:
>
> Hmmm,
>
> Is there anything we can do with this?
>
> Would SAML be interested and/or able to take this up? And
how would we 
> handle the legal/contractual issues of ‘OASIS’ as an
entity joining 
> such a consortium…
>
>
>
> From: Alicia Garcia Medina
[mailto:alicia.garcia@atosresearch.eu]
> Sent: Wednesday, 11 May, 2011 14:54
> To: Alicia Garcia Medina; peter@peterfbrown.com
> Cc: Peter Kustor ; Alberto Crespo Garcia; Ana Maria
Piñuela Marcos; 
> miguel.alvarez@mpr.es; Riedl Reinhard; 
> Neil.Clowes@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk;
> Reinhard Posch
> Subject: RE: STORK 2
>
>
>
> Dear Peter,
>
>
>
> I have communicated to the core team your interest and
some question 
> arises since in STORK we do not create standards but
support 
> standardisation and we would need technical advice on
WP4´s SAML profile.
>
>
>
> Could you please indicate to me who would participate as
legal entity? 
> Is OASIS a legal entity or will it be a company?
>
>
>
> I copy in this message WP4 leader (Miguel) and WP6
co-leaders 
> (Reinhard and
> Neil) so you all can check if this fits in STORK 2.0.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Alicia.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Peter F Brown [mailto:peter@peterfbrown.com]
> Sent: martes, 10 de mayo de 2011 19:57
> To: 'Reinhard Posch'
> Cc: 'Peter Kustor '; Alicia Garcia Medina
> Subject: RE: STORK 2
>
>
>
> Hi Reinhard, thanks for the prompt reply.
>
>
>
> Indeed, the project is about pilots and with an extended
scope as you 
> say, with health sector and banking.
>
> Our concern, as OASIS, would be to see what role we can
play in 
> facilitating the development of new – or greater take-up
of existing – 
> standards in this project. As you know, we have a new TC
set up to 
> pursue work for PEPPOL (the OASIS BDX TC) that will
hopefully provide 
> a durable standard beyond the lifetime of that large-scale
pilot – so 
> the main question is: has STORK identified a “gap in the
market” of IDM standards that needs to be filled?
> If the answer is yes, then our participation could be
helpful; if no, 
> then it would be a different issue.
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Reinhard Posch [mailto:reinhard.posch@cio.gv.at]
> Sent: Monday, 09 May, 2011 21:34
> To: peter@peterfbrown.com
> Cc: Peter Kustor
> Subject: Re: STORK 2
>
>
>
> .. indeed June 1st is very near. On the question of
technicality of 
> joining this late
>
> Alicia Garcia Medina<alicia.garcia@atosresearch.eu>  from
ATOS could 
> give
>
> you more details.
>
> Then it would come to what is OASIS bringing to the
pilots. It is 
> pilots - having
>
> said this I mean that it is about interoperability of
existing eID of 
> Member States
>
> also with flavors like using them in the private sector
like banks and 
> heath care.
>
>
>
> Was nice to hear from you
>
> Reinhard
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 10.05.2011 um 01:40 schrieb Peter F Brown:
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I was talking last week in Brussels with Jean-Francois
Junger at the 
> European Commission and he mentioned the current CfP for
the next 
> phase of STORK.
>
>
>
> He suggested that OASIS, as a standards organisation
active in IDM, 
> ought to consider joining the proposed new consortium, and
help with 
> the delivery of standards to be used in the STORK.
>
>
>
> Any thoughts on the matter? Is it realistic, given that
the deadline 
> is 1st June?
>
>
>
> Best regards from (not so sunny) Los Angeles
>
>
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> Peter F Brown
>
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