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Subject: RE: [kmip] Groups - Proposal for modification to Conformance Section (Conformance_Clause_Proposal_V3.doc) uploaded

We could certainly consider updating the charter to be explicit about a) profiles, and b) ongoing spec maintenance by following the procedures described in the OASIS TC Process (http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.php) re: rechartering.


I refer you to the current SSTC charter as an example (http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/security/charter.php).  That TC has gone through a couple of charter revisions in its long history (it started in Nov 2000) as it moved from SAML 1.0 to 1.1 to 2.0.


That current charter uses wording in the purpose, scope and deliverables to account for creation of new profiles of use and spec maintenance.  The last update was back in Nov 2003 and that revision has served the ongoing work since then.


While I’m not suggesting that the KMIP TC has to continue in existence for the next 10 years or more, there is nothing that precludes that if evolution of the spec and creation of new profiles truly serves the interests of the industry.


Rob Philpott

RSA, the Security Division of EMC
Senior Technologist | e-Mail: robert.philpott@rsa.com | Office: (781) 515-7115 | Mobile: (617) 510-0893


From: Mary McRae [mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org]
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 4:07 PM
To: Bruce Rich
Cc: kmip@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [kmip] Groups - Proposal for modification to Conformance Section (Conformance_Clause_Proposal_V3.doc) uploaded


Hi Bruce,


  Yes, that's for the TC to decide. I'm not aware of an existing TC that has ever taken that position (that creation of a profile is out of scope) but it's up to the participants. As far as time commitments go, again, there is no 'required' membership; members are free to join/leave as appropriate. Of course those employers that are paying employees to sit on committees might have a different opinion ;)












On Jul 16, 2009, at 3:20 PM, Bruce Rich wrote:


Thanks for the clarification.  In doing a quick re-read of our charter, it seems that it is quiet on the topic of profiles, so it's unclear whether this is expanding the scope of work or not.  Minimally. profile governance work may extend the anticipated time commitments of some of the TC members.

Bruce A Rich
brich at-sign us dot ibm dot com


Mary McRae <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>


Bruce Rich/Austin/IBM@IBMUS


walt.hubis@lsi.com, kmip@lists.oasis-open.org


07/16/2009 11:25 AM


Re: [kmip] Groups - Proposal for modification to Conformance Section   (Conformance_Clause_Proposal_V3.doc) uploaded


Hi Bruce,

  That's not quite true. A TC doesn't cease its work until it has either agreed to dissolve or until it finishes the work items described in the Charter. Most TCs continue to update that list of work items as time processes and further refinements/enhancements/additions/modifications/etc are deemed appropriate. The only thing a TC cannot do is expand its scope of work. Most TCs produce multiple iterations of a spec (v1.0, v1.1, v.1.2, v2.0), profiles, and other ancillary works in support of the specs themselves.



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On Jul 16, 2009, at 11:16 AM, Bruce Rich wrote:

Overall, I like the proposal.

However, I think one key provision that will be problematic with this proposal is Section 13.3.

In general, there are no standing committees at OASIS.  Once a standard is completed, the TCs cease their work.  So I'm not sure how one would get a profile approved when the TC has dissolved.  And since this seems to be the engine that drives this mechanism, I'm not sure where that leaves us.

Bruce A Rich
brich at-sign us dot ibm dot com






07/10/2009 03:13 PM


[kmip] Groups - Proposal for modification to Conformance Section   (Conformance_Clause_Proposal_V3.doc) uploaded


This is revision 3 of the Proposal for Modification of the Conformance
section of the Specification and the Usage Guide.

-- Mr. Walt Hubis

The document revision named Proposal for modification to Conformance
Section (Conformance_Clause_Proposal_V3.doc) has been submitted by Mr. Walt
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