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Subject: Call in # and Scenario Issue
Jim and everyone: It is the same call in number and code as last meeting. Dial 512 225 3050 - Use 84759# for Pin Code One issue came up that I'd like to mention before the call: Rolly won't be able to join us today, so the construction contract scenario is postponed. I think we might want to ask Dr. Leff to address his software license and web terms scenario today rather than his electronic contract to electronic litigation scenario because the former is already widely based in commerce and general practice and so it would make a more concrete issue set for our first formal run at a scenario. Thanks, Dan ============================================== | Daniel J. Greenwood, Esq. | Director, E-Commerce Architecture Program | MIT School of Architecture and Planning | 77 Massachusetts Avenue, Room 7-231 | Cambridge, MA 02139 | http://ecitizen.mit.edu | or http://www.civics.com | dang@mit.edu ============================================== -----Original Message----- From: jkeane [mailto:jik@jkeane.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 3:55 PM To: legalxml-econtracts@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: RE: [legalxml-econtracts] Minutes Draft from the OASIS Legal XMLMember Section Electronic Contracts Technical Committee Secretary (File id:@@2210) The minutes mention a planned discussion today. If so, does any one have the dial-in information? -----Original Message----- From: Dr. Laurence Leff [mailto:D-Leff@wiu.edu] Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 10:46 PM To: legalxml-econtracts@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [legalxml-econtracts] Minutes Draft from the OASIS Legal XML Member Section Electronic Contracts Technical Committee Secretary (File id: @@2210) Minutes Teleconference of May Seventh Organization for the Advancement of Structured Information Standards (OASIS) Legal XML Member Section E-Contracts Technical Committee (TC) Present Rolly Chambers Charles Gilliam Dan Greenwood Jason Harrop Laurence L. Leff, Ph.D. Dave Marvits John McClure John Messing Peter Meyer Zorran Milosovic The minutes for April 23rd were approved. Note they were a combination of notes taken by Dr. Leff and Mr. Marvits. Mr. Chambers updated the group on work going in the area of online dispute resolution. There is other work but "we seem to be ahead." The ODR group is geared towards mediation, negotiation, and arbitration of settlements. They are not yet talking about reputation systems. Mr. Greenwood proposed - that all TC members make a best effort to submit one or more benchmark contracts for use by the TC in applying our emerging draft specification. (Mr. Greenwood's electronic mail of April 16th on Benchmark Contracts, http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/legalxml-econtracts/200304/msg000 34.htm l is incorporated by reference.) This was approved by acclamation. The discussion about sample contracts included whether they might be copyrighted, or material posted to the web, would be subject to Intellectual Property claims. The Technical Committee also discussed how such intellectual property claims might impact the ongoing work of this Technical Committee including markup. Also, the technical committee discussed how marking up "real life" contracts would advance its agenda as well as the impact of working with both simple contracts and complex contracts. Mr. Greenwood proposed that we have a vote on approval of the process document. (This was in Mr. Greenwood's electronic mail of May 1st http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/legalxml-econtracts/200305/msg000 01.htm l) This was approved. However, there was considerable discussion about the vagueness of Step Two on establishing a "data model." It was thus noted that although this step is not precise now, the Technical Committee anticipates that the model will include 1) What schemas will be produced and the subject matter 2) Some description of an architecture. This was passed unanimously. The following dates and agenda were set for teleconferences. All of these were for 18:00 Eastern Time. May 21st: Discuss the following two scenarios: Dispute Resolution Contract Work on Construction Contract June 4th: Discuss the Clause Model Discuss the Requirements Document Discuss the following two scenarios: 1) - Automated Negotiation System (Mr. Marvits) http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/legalxml-econtracts/200302/msg000 16.htm l 2) - Discuss Electronic Contracts in Litigation June 18th: Discuss the following two scenarios: 1 Click-Through Contracts for Software Downloads http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/legalxml-econtracts/200302/msg000 12.htm l 2 - Data Consortium Contract Schema Requirements http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/legalxml-econtracts/200302/msg000 06.htm l July 2nd: Discussion the Enterprise Contract Management Scenario http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/legalxml-econtracts/200302/msg000 07.htm l July 16th: Discuss the XML in enterprise documentation systems (Mr. Peter Mayer) http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/legalxml-econtracts/200305/msg000 06.htm l The Technical Committee addressed the issue of scenarios that might come in later than the original deadline. It decided to be open to "late" scenarios as it recognized that it might learn what scenarios are appropriate in the process of reviewing scenarios now submitted. Mr. Greenwood closed the meeting, thanking the participants for their patience during the extensive "administrative items" in this teleconference and pointing out that the group is well posed to proceed at a rapid pace through the more substantive issues. New Action Items: Dr. Laurence Leff will send mail to Mr. Jamie Clark of OASIS requesting sample "paper agreements" that were associated with electronic commerce, e. g., under ebXML. Dr. Laurence Leff will send mail to Mr. Karl Best of OASIS to inform him of the Technical Committee's interest in holding a face-to-face in conjunction with the Australia conference. Dr. Leff will also inquire as to the availability of teleconferencing or web conferencing facilities for those who might not be able to travel to Australia. Dr. Laurence Leff will follow up with Ms. Pina regarding having teleconferences starting at 18:00PM Eastern Daylight Time and continuing past 19:00. Dr. Laurence Leff will post to the list, the material he prepared on click-through contracts coordinating it with the information item format prepared by Mr. Harrop. Mr. John Messing will follow up on the possiblity of having a face-to-face in conjunction with the American Bar Association meeting August 7th and August 8th in San Francisco Mr. Rolly Chambers will post benchmark contracts from the construction field. You may leave a Technical Committee at any time by visiting http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/legalxml-econtracts/membe rs/leave_workgroup.php
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