From our last call, I also have HaanSoft,
Corel and Red Hat. Would they be appropriate?
Thanks,
Dee
From: robert_weir@us.ibm.com
[mailto:robert_weir@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 10:07
AM
To: Louis Suarez-Potts
Cc: Dee Schur;
Dieter.Loeschky@Sun.COM; 'Jane Harnad'; 'John McCreesh';
odf-adoption@lists.oasis-open.org; pim.vandereijk@oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [odf-adoption] RE:
need confirmation on ODF Camp
Would it be worth focusing on a single application time
for this first interoperability event? Say, just word processors? I
think it would be difficult to ensure that we have enough people with
sufficient expertise in all three applications from all vendors, and even if we
could, any topic would be interesting to only 1/3 of the engineers.
So,
if we focused on just ODF word processors, we could invite:
1)
OpenOffice on Linux, Mac and Windows (we would want to consider cross platform
fidelity issues even with a single application, and OO is a good example for
this)
2)
IBM
3)
KDE
4)
Google Docs
5)
AbiWord
6)
CleverAge (for the Word Plugin) or maybe Novell handles this?
7)
ZohoWriter?
8)
Anyone else?
-Rob
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Workplace, Portal and Collaboration Software
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Louis Suarez-Potts
<luispo@mac.com>
06/01/2007 04:58 AM
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Hi,
On 2007-05-30, at 16:16 , Dee Schur wrote:
> Hi Louis and Dieter,
> I think these are both great ideas but
slightly different, which is
> good.
:-)
>
> Louis,
> I think your camp concept is terrific
(not mine; Don came up with the idea, but it is
good)
> and can easily be coordinated through
> the Adoption TC with you as a lead.
I'd rather have Dieter lead the camp; Dieter and
Rob, say, as the
camp must be technical and I'm not technically
competent enough to
pose as lead, let alone lead.
> Since there will be no presentations, it
> seems to me that as long as you secure the
space, you will be set.
> OASIS can
> promote the 'ODF Camp' in the same manner we
always do (posting to
> event
> page, OASIS News, etc.) So, as soon as you
have a written description
> inviting participants, we can move forward
with various postings.
Great, let's start inviting :-)
Dieter, Rob (if you are here...):
Let's coordinate on inviting candidates. We
can coordinate off this
list but why? I'd like to invite essentially all
those implementing
ODF or wanting to. I don't have contacts in
all these companies.
But I think we have to finalize the invitations
by, say, end of next
week?
>
> Dieter,
> I think your concept will take longer to
execute properly, so we
> might think
> about late in 2007 or 2008. During the last
Adoption call we tossed
> around
> the idea of a stand alone ODF event (one or
two days), that can either
> co-locate with another conference or act as a
stand alone that could
> possibly be hosted at a member facility in
various locations. Once
> you put
> this type of effort together it is easy to
duplicate in different
> locations.
> I would like each member to consider hosting
such an event and/or
> suggest an
> event/conference that would an appropriate
venue for 'ODF Day(s).'
> I think
> an Asian venue would be interesting, any
thoughts? I would like to
> see how
> much interest we have for this before we
commit a lot of cycles. I
> think it
> is a great idea, and ODF is gaining
tremendous speed but I will
> need the
> support of the Adoption TC.
Dee, I
think I resolved Dieter's points, and I think Dieter was
thinking of presentations in the context of
OOoCon. Last year and
year before and year before that we had tracks on
ODF; this year will
likely be no different. So, we can have ODF
presentations throughout
the conference, without OASIS' specific intervention,
though your
support would always be helpful.
best,
Louis
>
> Thanks so much!
> Dee
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dieter.Loeschky@Sun.COM
[mailto:Dieter.Loeschky@Sun.COM]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:21 AM
> To: Louis Suarez-Potts
> Cc: Dee Schur;
odf-adoption@lists.oasis-open.org; John McCreesh;
> Jane Harnad
> Subject: Re: [odf-adoption] RE: need
confirmation on ODF Camp
>
> Hi,
>
> I would love to see technical presentations
(e.g. reports from the
> Metadata SC, Formula SC, ...) as well as
status presentations (e.g.
> ODF
> roadmap, ODF adoption, ...).
> Furthermore we should have workshops on ODF
interoperability in ODF
> enabled applications (OOo, KOffice, ...) and
ODF processing (server
> and
> client side).
> Taking the ODF Toolkit project into account,
I hope that we can
> attract
> additional audience outside the classic OOo
public.
>
> Regards,
> Dieter
>
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> Louis Suarez-Potts schrieb:
>> Hi
>> On 2007-05-29, at 21:12 , Dee Schur
wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Louis,
>>> We did discuss your email on the ODF
Adoption call this morning
>>> and I was
>>> hoping that you would have joined the
call.
>>> It was mentioned that it may be
difficult to keep attendees with
>>> split
>>> session (19 and 21 of September) on
ODF. I'm not certain that
>>> this is a
>>> problem.
>>
>> Depends.
>>
>>
>>> In terms of the ODF camp, how many
competing tracks will occur
>>> simultaneously? Is this a speaker/presentation
format? If so, how
>>> many
>>> speakers? Or is it an interactive
learning event with tutorials and
>>> clinics?
>>> Is this a plug-fest? Who will select
the presenters, are you on the
>>> programme committee?
>>
>> Camp: it's a workshop. No presentations
except impromptu ones.
>> Rather,
>> work on code.
>>
>>
>>> If we do a showcase/demo, I would
like to approach the participating
>>> vendors
>>> about sponsorship after I understand
the openoffice.org conference
>>> funding
>>> model.
>>
>>
>> Model: We ask for donations. See
>>
http://marketing.openoffice.org/ooocon2007/sponsorship.html
>>
>>
>>> But OOoCon may not be in favor of
vendors demoing their products?
>>
>> Indeed, we are not. We are in favour of
vendors speaking about
>> experience about their experience with
their products, esp. if they
>> concern OOo--are derived from it or in
some way relate to it. Example
>> could be, KOffice speaking about
heterogeneous environment,
>> KOffice/OOo,
>> say.
>>
>>
>>> A
>>> traditional OASIS InterOp would
require a scenario that solves a
>>> business
>>> problem and solution, they are
non-promotional in nature but members
>>> report
>>> that the InterOps drive business to
their company. Of course,
>>> open-source
>>> participation would also be
encouraged. I also wanted to pursue the
>>> InterOp
>>> because we are trying to increase
membership in the Adoption TC
>>> and the
>>> possibility of participating in this
event would encourage these
>>> potential
>>> new members to join the Adoption TC.
>>
>> OOo and ODF are not quite like regular
OASIS formats, I think.
>>
>> The point of the camp is actually to
improve interoperability
>> among the
>> ODF implementations. But the
presentations, given at OOoCon, must
>> really
>> relate to OOo, as well as ODF.
>>
>>
>>> Do we have any idea of number and
type of attendees? It is my
>>> understanding
>>> that this event is heavily attended
by public sector folks or is it
>>> mostly
>>> developers?
>>
>> Both. In years past, numbers have trended
up from 300-350. I
>> think this
>> year it will be more popular.
>>
>>> I have many more questions, maybe we
should plan another call
>>> since it
>>> sounds like you are under the gun.
>>
>> Quite. :-)
>>
>> But I'm in Moscow for the next couple of
days, then back to London. I
>> can manage one via Skype or equiv., but I
want to hear from
>> Dieter, too.
>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Dee
>>
>> best
>> louis
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Louis Suarez-Potts
[mailto:luispo@mac.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:28 PM
>>> To: odf-adoption@lists.oasis-open.org
>>> Cc: John McCreesh; Dee Schur; Dieter
Loeschky
>>> Subject: need confirmation on ODF
Camp
>>>
>>> Hi
>>> A couple of days ago I sent a note to
this list, cc'ing Dee Schur
>>> and
>>> several others. [0].
>>>
>>> No response so far. That's
unfortunate. We need to decide on the
>>> logistics of the event, and soon.
>>>
>>> Here is the idea:
>>>
>>> Wednesday have a 1/2 or even full day
"camp" that would work on
>>> "normalizing"
interoperability among ODF implementations.
>>>
>>> Options:
>>>
>>> ** It could run in parallel to the
regular scheduled talks, as a
>>> stream.
>>>
>>> Or,
>>>
>>> ** it would be one of the streams
>>>
>>> The latter option would necessary
crowd out other papers.
>>>
>>>
>>> Opinions?
>>>
>>> My own preference would be to
have a parallel track.
>>>
>>>
>>> Please respond as soon as you can.
>>>
>>> best
>>> Louis
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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