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Subject: Re: [office-comment] Comments on ODF 1.0 Errata 01 Committee Draft 02
Makoto, On 08/21/08 01:56, MURATA Makoto (FAMILY Given) wrote: >>>> First, an absolute IRI reference begins with a scheme (rather than protocol), >>>> and it does not start with an authority or an absolute-path. >>> This point has not been addressed, since the corrected wording still >>> allows IRI references to start with an absolute-path. I believe that >> I'm not sure if I do understand this. > > The phrase "All other kinds of IRI references, namely the ones that > start with a schema (like http:), an authority (i.e., //) or an > absolute-path (i.e., /) " in the draft errata means either > > 1) IRI references that start with a scheme (like http:), > 2) IRI references that start with an authority (i.e., //), or > 3) IRI references that start with an absolute-path (i.e., /) Yes, but it also includes any other IRI reference that is not a relative path. > > The BNF in RFC 3987 is: > > IRI = scheme ":" ihier-part [ "?" iquery ] > [ "#" ifragment ] > > ihier-part = "//" iauthority ipath-abempty > / ipath-absolute > / ipath-rootless > / ipath-empty > > IRI-reference = IRI / irelative-ref > > absolute-IRI = scheme ":" ihier-part [ "?" iquery ] > > irelative-ref = irelative-part [ "?" iquery ] [ "#" ifragment ] > > irelative-part = "//" iauthority ipath-abempty > / ipath-absolute > / ipath-noscheme > / ipath-empty > > > Thus, 1) is allowed as IRIs or IRI references. 2) and 3) are allowed as > IRI references only. Section 4.2 of RFC 3986 clearly states that 2) > and 3) are relative references, and the preceding paragraph in the ODF > spec already covers relative references. ipath-noscheme and ipath-empty > are not mentioned. The preceding paragraph is: "A relative-path reference (as described in §6.5 of [RFC3987]) that occurs in a file that is contained in a package has to be resolved exactly as it would be resolved if the whole package gets unzipped into a directory at its current location. The base IRI for resolving relative-path references is the one that has to be used to retrieve the (unzipped) file that contains the relative-path reference. " It does not include the term "relative reference", but only "relative-path reference". Therefore, the paragraph in question includes all kind of IRIs that are not "relative path-references". This includes absolute references, but also all kind of relative references that are not relative path-references. So, in my opinion the problem is not that paragraph, but the reference to §6.5 of RFC3987. RFC3986 and its predecessors are defining terms like "relative path-reference" or "network-path" references, and a "relative path-reference" is exactly the kind of URI/IRI that requires a special processing. But RFC3986 is about URIs. ODF supports IRIs as described by RFC3987. RFC3987 unfortunately does define these terms, and I could also not find any counterparts for them. Maybe we should say: "A relative-path reference (as defined in §4.2 of [RFC3986], except that it may contain the additional characters that are allowed in IRI references [RFC3987]) that occurs in a file that is contained in a package has to be resolved exactly [...]" > > I think that you are inviting problems by not relying on RFCs 3986 and > 3987. Actually, we are relying on RFC 3986 and RFC 3987. The problem is that RFC 3987 is not repeating the definitions of RFC 3986. > > Cheers, > Best regards Michael -- Michael Brauer, Technical Architect Software Engineering StarOffice/OpenOffice.org Sun Microsystems GmbH Nagelsweg 55 D-20097 Hamburg, Germany michael.brauer@sun.com http://sun.com/staroffice +49 40 23646 500 http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS Sitz der Gesellschaft: Sun Microsystems GmbH, Sonnenallee 1, D-85551 Kirchheim-Heimstetten Amtsgericht Muenchen: HRB 161028 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Thomas Schroeder, Wolfgang Engels, Dr. Roland Boemer Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Martin Haering
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