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Subject: OpenDocument TC coordination call minutes 2007-02-12

* Rollcall
Nathaniel Borenstein, IBM
Yue Ma, IBM
Robert Weir, IBM
Helen Yue, IBM
David Faure, KDE
Jody Goldberg, Novell
Florian Reueter, Novell
Michael Brauer, Sun Microsystems
Lars Oppermann, Sun Microsystems
Eike Radtke, Sun Microsystems
Oliver Wittmann, Sun Microsystems
David A. Wheeler, OpenDocument Foundation
Gary Edwards, OpenDocument Foundation

* Minutes from last coordination call
The attending TC members unanimously accepted the minutes from the last

* Action Items

* resolution proposed by rob
Rob: ...let ISO know, that we are available for them and their national 
body  members for questions and support
This can avoid back-channel communication and make things more smoother.
Ken Holman is resigning as SC 34 secretary and this is a good
opportunity to reiterate our support.
DavidW: what email should we include for them to contact
Michael: comment list
Rob: there are new national bodies that have joined SC34 so its a good
time to make ourselves known again
Add "Questions and comments can be directed to the TC chair and
Secretary whose email addresses are given at... or through the commants
facility at..."
-no objections

* schedule
Michael: we hoped to get all proposals until end of january. some are
still outstanding. We wanted to get the spec to draft by end of March. I
would like to ask you if you have additional proposals for 1.2 to send
them in or give notice about those as soon as possible
Formula SC is still looking for support in specifying the last remaining
function definitions.
DavidW: we need people with some time. 14 functions are undefined on
which we are working right now.
People familiar with spreadsheets who can spend some time going through
the document. Expertise varies with the functions.
We have a couple of non-normative paragraphs that includes ratinale and
notes that explain why some of the things were specified the way they
are. The document is much smaller without those.
Rob: in the initial stage (committee draft) they should be in there. For
later stages it should get extracted.
Annotated version

* Bookmark/Reference proposals
no further questions
no objections

* referencing table columns/rows
no objections

* chart: sort by x values

rob: are we making a point to keep section numbers equivalent between
1.1 and 1.2
Michael: with only few exceptions, yes. since we number to the fourth
level in 1.2, some cleanup was needed. This should also remain when we
split into parts. Chapter 17 will become a new docuemnt

no objection to proposal

* chart empty cell treatment
no objection

* new natural sort options
Work call agreed to support two kinds of natural sort (integer and
float). Proposal has been rvised. Boolean attributes has been replaced
with an enumeration (alphanum/int/float)
DavidW: what about case sensitive
Michael: there is an additional attribute to select case-.sensitive/case
no objections

* state of remaining proposals
numbered paragraph: Oliver summarized current behavior and pointed out
areas for clarification. Explained reasons for proposals
Oliver: I tried to answer all the questions that were remaining. If
there are no further questions I will summarize up everything into a new
proposal by hopefully Wednesday/Thursday.

RFC4646 language tags: difficult to strike balance between ISO/IETF
specifications we cite.
Patrick: I will look at those and post something to the list later this week

Text grid: Florian mentioned CSS3
Michael: Florian, can you send me a link to the specific part in CSS3
Florian: It's out on the list now
Michael: I would like to have the attributes for grids as a style
setting rather than as an application setting
Florian: I would like to have a place to set it globally for the document
Oliver: understood. Default page style would be a good place to put it.

* new position and space attributes for lists
Florian: I discussed with Oliver. It seems that there are mostly
philosophical issues and the degree of interoperability with other
formats. I am personally happy with both.
Florian: but are we aiming for 100% interoperability with MS OOXML
Oliver: my personal opinion is that we do not need to cover every little
detail but should stick to the relevant use-cases
Florian: my opinion is that 100% should be done.

Lars Oppermann <lars.oppermann@sun.com>               Sun Microsystems
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