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Subject: OpenDocument TC coordination call minutes 2007-02-12
* Rollcall Nathaniel Borenstein, IBM Yue Ma, IBM Robert Weir, IBM Helen Yue, IBM David Faure, KDE Jody Goldberg, Novell Florian Reueter, Novell Michael Brauer, Sun Microsystems Lars Oppermann, Sun Microsystems Eike Radtke, Sun Microsystems Oliver Wittmann, Sun Microsystems David A. Wheeler, OpenDocument Foundation Gary Edwards, OpenDocument Foundation * Minutes from last coordination call The attending TC members unanimously accepted the minutes from the last coordination-call. * Action Items none * resolution proposed by rob http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/200702/msg00040.html Rob: ...let ISO know, that we are available for them and their national body members for questions and support This can avoid back-channel communication and make things more smoother. Ken Holman is resigning as SC 34 secretary and this is a good opportunity to reiterate our support. DavidW: what email should we include for them to contact Michael: comment list Rob: there are new national bodies that have joined SC34 so its a good time to make ourselves known again Add "Questions and comments can be directed to the TC chair and Secretary whose email addresses are given at... or through the commants facility at..." -no objections * schedule Michael: we hoped to get all proposals until end of january. some are still outstanding. We wanted to get the spec to draft by end of March. I would like to ask you if you have additional proposals for 1.2 to send them in or give notice about those as soon as possible Formula SC is still looking for support in specifying the last remaining function definitions. DavidW: we need people with some time. 14 functions are undefined on which we are working right now. People familiar with spreadsheets who can spend some time going through the document. Expertise varies with the functions. We have a couple of non-normative paragraphs that includes ratinale and notes that explain why some of the things were specified the way they are. The document is much smaller without those. Rob: in the initial stage (committee draft) they should be in there. For later stages it should get extracted. Annotated version * Bookmark/Reference proposals no further questions no objections * referencing table columns/rows no objections * chart: sort by x values rob: are we making a point to keep section numbers equivalent between 1.1 and 1.2 Michael: with only few exceptions, yes. since we number to the fourth level in 1.2, some cleanup was needed. This should also remain when we split into parts. Chapter 17 will become a new docuemnt no objection to proposal * chart empty cell treatment no objection * new natural sort options Work call agreed to support two kinds of natural sort (integer and float). Proposal has been rvised. Boolean attributes has been replaced with an enumeration (alphanum/int/float) DavidW: what about case sensitive Michael: there is an additional attribute to select case-.sensitive/case -insensitive no objections * state of remaining proposals numbered paragraph: Oliver summarized current behavior and pointed out areas for clarification. Explained reasons for proposals Oliver: I tried to answer all the questions that were remaining. If there are no further questions I will summarize up everything into a new proposal by hopefully Wednesday/Thursday. RFC4646 language tags: difficult to strike balance between ISO/IETF specifications we cite. Patrick: I will look at those and post something to the list later this week Text grid: Florian mentioned CSS3 Michael: Florian, can you send me a link to the specific part in CSS3 Florian: It's out on the list now Michael: I would like to have the attributes for grids as a style setting rather than as an application setting Florian: I would like to have a place to set it globally for the document Oliver: understood. Default page style would be a good place to put it. * new position and space attributes for lists Florian: I discussed with Oliver. It seems that there are mostly philosophical issues and the degree of interoperability with other formats. I am personally happy with both. Florian: but are we aiming for 100% interoperability with MS OOXML Oliver: my personal opinion is that we do not need to cover every little detail but should stick to the relevant use-cases Florian: my opinion is that 100% should be done. -- Lars Oppermann <lars.oppermann@sun.com> Sun Microsystems Software Engineer Nagelsweg 55 Phone: +49 40 23646 959 20097 Hamburg, Germany Fax: +49 40 23646 550 http://www.sun.com/staroffice
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