Re: [office] renewed proposal for new position and space attributesfor the list level

[Oliver-Rainer Wittmann - Software Engineer - Sun Microsystems<Oliver-Rainer.Wittmann@Sun.COM>]

Thomas Zander wrote:
> On Friday 02 March 2007 11:38, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann - Software Engineer - 
> Sun Microsystems wrote:
>>> b) I don't understand the need for text:label-aligned-at. Especially I
>>> don't understand the reference to "text:minimum-label-width".
>> The need of text:label-aligned-at is, that the list item layout should
>> be specified without considering the paragraph indent attributes.
> 
> The current spec says that list indent is based on the paragraph indent rules.
> You invent a new set, and a property to switch between those two sets.
> 
>> I think it's better to have *one* attribute set to specify the layout of
>> list items than to have *two* attribute sets.
> So, by your own account, we should not have properties to alter the indent at 
> the list level, since we already can do that at the paragraph level.
> I'd agree to that!
> 
You didn't get it.
We are on the style level to specify how the list items are laid out. 
Thus, it doesn't makes sense to specify only part of the list item 
layout at the list style and specify the the other part - namely the 
indents - on each paragraph separately and redundant.
That's the purpose of styles - specifying something, thus, it's not 
needed that each item specifies it again and again.

> 
> Further down you state;
>> I disagree, because
>> - as stated above, it should be possible to specify the list item layout
>>   without considering the paragraph indent attributes.
>> - there exist already attribute fo:align-at, which hold the values
>> "left", "center" and "right". Thus, there is no need to introduce
>> another attribute like text:label-alignment.
> 
> You are aware that those two points conflict with each other, right?
> Specifically, the first point states you need something separate from the 
> parag, and the second states that you can't have an extra option since you 
> already have it at the parag level...

Sorry, my mistake.
It wanted to refer to the attribute fo:text-align at the list level 
style properties, which already holds the values "left", "center" and 
"right".
BTW, there doesn't exist an attribute named fo:align-at in the ODF 
specification. Thus, why do you think, it's available at the paragraph?
Thus, there isn't any conflict in my two points.


Regards, Oliver.