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Subject: Re: [office] Meeting Effectiveness and Maintenance SC


Please don't apologize for asking about processes that are unclear or 
that seem sub-optimal.

I don't want to increase the burden on Michael or Rob, who have lots of 
other duties but if the TC had a better interface (nothing any of us 
control), it would be much easier to automatically record the 
information you seek. Why a standards organization lacks something as 
simply as comment tracking as part of the service it offers all TCs is 
beyond me. It shouldn't be "roll your own" task for TC members who are 
already volunteering time on behalf of their employers.

BTW, you really should write the the OASIS administration about the use 
of the "*" next to names and companies. If I ever knew the explanation I 
have forgotten it and so far as I can tell, it isn't on the OASIS 
website. Now I am curious myself.

I appreciate your efforts to bring matters to our attention that some of 
us have simply accepted as "the way it is." Can't say that all of it 
will result in general agreement or even changes but I find it useful.

Hope you are having a great day!


Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> My impression is that the TC Coordination Calls work best with the work
> off-line to the calls and actions requiring voting well prepared prior to
> the call (with the probe for comments prior to that call).
> I also think that creation of a Maintenance Committee is timely, although I
> can see polling the TC list on items where we would be baffled or uncertain
> about the committee's desired direction.  I am available for such work along
> with Michael, Rob, Patrick, and others.  In my case, it is part of my
> gaining mastery over the specification so I can contribute more properly on
> technical matter, so now is a good time before the spec hiccups become
> invisible to me.
>  - Dennis 
> PS: I am concerned a little about the number of weekly calls I may be
> dealing with.  I need to revamp my home-office telephony arrangements, I
> think.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: robert_weir@us.ibm.com [mailto:robert_weir@us.ibm.com] 
> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/200810/msg00004.html
> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 22:02
> To: 'OpenDocument Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: [office] ODF TC call agenda and duration
> If we can keep the main TC meetings to an hour, I think that is 
> preferable.  The critical thing is for the meetings to focus on things 
> that require a quorum of TC members to accomplish.  These are formally 
> items which require votes by OASIS TC process or by the TC's standing 
> rules. 
> If we are spending TC time on things that does not require all of, then we 
> are probably not operating as efficiently as we could.
> I notice that we have been spending a large amount of time recently on 
> defect reports and errata.  Although this is important work, it is 
> probably not something that should dominate our TC  call time.  We should 
> be spending most of our time on ODF 1.2 proposals that are ready for 
> approval, or nearly so. 
> That is my opinion.  Does anyone disagree with that premise?
> [ ... ]
> It appears that Japan has submitted a 2nd defect report on ODF 1.0. 
> Nothing surprising.  More typographical errors, much of it which we've 
> already seen.  But we will need to process these, as well as other 
> comments received by the public.  Rather than dominate TC time with these 
> important, but less time sensitive issues, I wonder whether it is now 
> appropriate to create a Maintenance SC?  Participants in this SC would be 
> responsible for reviewing incoming comments and defect reports on existing 
> ODF TC deliverables, and proposing dispositions (fix via errata, fix in 
> next version, no fix, etc.) and drafting errata documents.  Both proposed 
> dispositions and draft errata documents would be submitted to the full TC 
> for review and approval.
> [ ... ]
> "Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamilton@acm.org> wrote on 09/29/2008 
> 09:33:46 AM:
> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/200809/msg00112.html
> [ ... ]
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Patrick Durusau 
Chair, V1 - US TAG to JTC 1/SC 34 
Convener, JTC 1/SC 34/WG 3 (Topic Maps) 
Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300 
Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps) 

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