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Subject: Re: [office] ODF TC Agenda for 06 July 2020

I have just created 4 issues from my emails last week to the ODF TC list:
  1. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4080Â- Improved usability for ODF users by RNG artefacts in HTMLÂ
  2. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4081Â-ÂImproved usability for ODF users by providing the default values as XMLÂ
  3. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4082Â-ÂEditing processes of our ODF TC deliverables
  4. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4083Â-ÂODF deliverable DIFF as PDF should be omittedÂ
Till in 5 minutes in our call,

Am Mo., 6. Juli 2020 um 17:22ÂUhr schrieb Svante Schubert <svante.schubert@gmail.com>:

Am Mo., 6. Juli 2020 um 16:25ÂUhr schrieb Patrick Durusau <patrick@durusau.net>:


I don't try to add every possible issue to the agenda for each week. You may remember that as we progressed through the JIRA issues, a sub-set of issues was listed each week, with others to be added if time permitted.

In other words, it wasn't oversight but a deliberate attempt to have a fixed amount of material to cover and not to encourage jumping around from one issue to another.

I would encourage that the TC is covering the topics of ODF 1.3 CS02 before setting ODF 1.4 tasks on the agenda.
I was not aware thatÂtopics of the upcoming TC agenda are solely JIRA tasks and not mails of TC members raising concerns, issues or suggestions?
Where haveÂwe defined this?

To be certain that we are going to discuss the questions I raised, I am going to write some tasks now ahead of the TC meeting.

The only change the TC discussed last week for the next CS draft was changing the error I made in the manifest schema. That is the only change reflected in the latest draft.

Talk to you in a bit.


PS: The TC has not decided on addressing https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4079 as part of CS02, despite your listing the issue that way. That awaits the TC pleasure.

Yes, it should indeed be discussed by the TC. So out of curiosity, why did you not put this issue on our agenda in the first place, Patrick?
It was an existing JIRA issue raised the last week and it was related to ODF 1.3 CS03.

Talk to you soon,

On 7/6/20 7:53 AM, Svante Schubert wrote:

I am a bit surprised. Last week I sent half a dozen emails to the ODF TC list when I was spending several days on the ODF-TC GitHub repository, filing - among other things - to the editor(s) the followingÂissue: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4079
(which includes an updated "Affects Version=PDF 1.3 CS01", "Fix Version="ODF 1.3 CS02" and updated Components:
  • Part (Introduction)
  • Part (Package)
  • Part (Schema)
  • Part (Formular)ÂÂ
I have been following Michael Stahl's suggestion I discussed this issue while I am writing it, to omit the numbersÂto reuse these parts more easily.Â

In addition, there were important emails with suggestions related to the upcoming ODF 1.3 CS02 delivery:
  1. ODF 1.3 CS02 additional artefacts
  2. ODF-TC requests to OASISÂ
  3. Suggestions on future OASIS ODF TC editing processes.
Still, you omitted all of these emails on today's agenda. Â

Are you searching for a certain phrase in the email? I thought all suggestions made to the list are automatically not the agenda of the nextÂmeeting?
Those topics are related to ODF 1.3 CS02 and should be addressed prior to the ODF 1.4 topics.

Last but not least, I would love to have an update from the editor on the remaining problems mentioned in https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4079
And of course our working drafts of the deliverables in the future in our GitHub repository.

Talk to youÂsoon,

PS: A short reply on my "Request for Leave of Absence" that it had been acknowledgedÂwould be fine! :-)

Am Mo., 6. Juli 2020 um 03:50ÂUhr schrieb Patrick Durusau <patrick@durusau.net>:

Below you find a draft agenda for our TC call on Monday, 2020-07-06

Time of meeting: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2020&month=7&day=6&hour=16&min=0&sec=0&p1=25&p2=37

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1. Dial-In, Roll Call, Determination of Quorum and Voting Rights

2. Motion (simple majority): Approve the Agenda

3. Motion (simple majority): Approve minutes of 29 June 2020 https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/202006/msg00063.html

4. FYI, component Interop_OOXML added to ODF JIRA component list.

5. Other changes before approval of a working draft as committee specification draft?

  If not, Working draft for approval as committee specification draft - (only change is to the manifest schema) https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office/download.php/67377/OpenDocument-v1.3-csprd02.zip

6. (new) Be more precise about the values 'text', 'char' and 'line' in style:vertical-rel https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4076

7. (new) Not clear, to which elements attributes vertical-rel and vertical-pos can be applied https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4077

8. (new) The technical term "baseline" is not defined. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4078

9. Other business?

10. Adjournment.

Hope everyone is at the start of a great week!


Patrick Durusau
Technical Advisory Board, OASIS (TAB)
Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300
Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps)

Another Word For It (blog): http://tm.durusau.net
Homepage: http://www.durusau.net
Twitter: patrickDurusau

Patrick Durusau
Technical Advisory Board, OASIS (TAB)
Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300
Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps)

Another Word For It (blog): http://tm.durusau.net
Homepage: http://www.durusau.net
Twitter: patrickDurusau 

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