Re: [opencsa-ms] Cancel? [was Proposed - OpenCSA Steering Committee (StC

Subject: Re: [opencsa-ms] Cancel? [was Proposed - OpenCSA Steering Committee (StC) Proposed Agenda - 10 April 2009]

On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 4:53 AM, Mark Little <mlittle@redhat.com> wrote:

+1

On 8 Apr 2009, at 17:04, Patil, Sanjay wrote:

what say you all?
Aye Aye Captain :-)

Cancelling this Friday's call is fine by me.

-- Sanjay

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Mischkinsky [mailto:jeff.mischkinsky@oracle.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Apr 08, 2009 8:57 AM
To: OpenCSA
Subject: [opencsa-ms] Cancel? [was Proposed - OpenCSA
Steering Committee (StC) Proposed Agenda - 10 April 2009]

hi,
We've now got 3 out of 7 regrets for friday's meetings.
What's this
about holidays on a Friday anyway? ;-)

I was wondering if we should just cancel as there are no pressing
decisions to be made that i know of.

You can see regular updates on schedules by reading the
LSC meeting
minutes, which are on the opencsa-liaison@lists.oasis-open.org list.

what say you all?
cheers,
jeff
On Apr 07, 2009, at 7:43 PM, Mike Kaiser wrote:

PROPOSED AGENDA - OpenCSA Steering Committee (StC) Proposed
Agenda -

10 April 2009 9:00 AM PST

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0. Agenda bashing and Roll

1. Minutes Approval

- 13 March 2009:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/opencsa-ms/downlo
ad.php/31656/Open_CSA_SC_20090313_Draft.txt

2. Open Action Item Review and Discussion
AI20081212-001 - Coordinate an effort with Assembly TC to
produce an
SCA primer as the specs approach
standardization (in

review).

STATUS: On Hold until we get closer to
standardization.

AI20090313-001 Jeff to send the following recommendation to
the TC's.

Recommendation:
Steering Committee Recommends inclusion of the
completed test suite with the main package for
the initial CS vote.

STATUS:

AI20090313-002 - Jeff to talk with mary to make
the request to group SCA PR announcements.

STATUS: COMPLETE - Should now be closed.
Jeff send the following e-mail to Mary on

March 13,

2009.

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/opencsa-ms/email/
archives/200903/msg00005.html

Subsequent communications with Mary were done
to inform her that Assembly and Policy

specs should go

first. Any others that are ready at the same time
should
also go, but Assembly nor Policy should be held up
waiting
for another TC.

3. Overall TC Milestones Status as discussed by LSC:
Tentative dates for key milestones:

On Feb 5, 2009 conf-call [A], the LSC discussed the
following as the
new anticipated schedule for the OpenCSA TCs:

End Feb - Assembly and Policy TC to start 1st Public
Review (60 day)
Mid March - Other TCs to start 1st Public Review (60 day)
End June - Finish all the work
End July - Submit specs to OASIS for OS vote

ASSEMBLY ONLY (now about a month behind schedule on
testing

work
resulting in the following [B])
End Feb Test Assertion complete
End March Test Case complete
Mid April for Assembly TC only
End June - 1st Public Review complete

Recommendation that all other TC's set a similar
schedule for

for about one month later.

[A]
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/opencsa-liaison/200902/ms
g00003.html

[B]
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/opencsa-liaison/200901/ms
g00013.html

For each TC:
What is status of PR for each of the following?:
When is/was the anticipated vote for CD for Public
Review?
When is the Public Review scheduled to start?

What is the status of Test Assertions?
What is the status of Test Cases?
When are these scheduled for vote for Public Review?
When is the Public Review for Test Cases and
Assertions scheduled to start?

SCA-Assembly TC:
SCA-Policy TC:
SCA-Bindings TC:
SCA-BPEL TC:
SCA-C and C++ TC:
SCA-Java TC:
SDO TC:

4. Compliant implementation plans
We know that we need something about mid year. There are
several companies working this but implementation timing is
unknown. Open Source (Apache Tuscany, looks to be one
source for at least some of the TC's. Fabric3 may be
another).
Each TC will have to make it's own decision on what
compliant

implementations they are going to use based on what's
available
in the timeframe of standardization and what their
test plan
looks like.

The SC must eventually resolve the question of "how it will
make approval decisions" and communicate this to the TC's.
It is expected that the Testing Plans for each TC will
incorporate implementation/testing aspects which encompass
the broader "SCA" picture.

We must address the following core questions:
Are we all in agreement that the exit criteria in each
charter applies to Member Submission for vote and not
for Committee Specification approval?

At this stage, what (if any) compliant applications
are the likely candidates which the SC will likely
generally accept?

If there are no updates, then continue to hold on agenda for
discussion at the next meeting.

5. Any Other Business?

6. Future SC Agenda Topics?

7. Next Meeting
- The next regular teleconference is scheduled for May
8th, 2009
9:00am PST, 12:00pm EST, 5:00pm UK

(OpenCSA Steering Committee calls are scheduled for the
second Friday
of each month.)

8. Adjourn

--
Jeff Mischkinsky
jeff.mischkinsky@oracle.com
Director, Oracle Fusion Middleware
+1(650)506-1975
and Web Services Standards
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