RE: [plcs-dex] Dissenting voice: Templates are a waste of time.

["Barker, Sean (UK)" <Sean.Barker@baesystems.com>]

Not - rules are a waste of time
But - the amount of effort to write a template to express a single rule is disproportionate to its information content, i.e.
	"Task_method_version_assignment must be classified with a subtype of the reference data value 'Task_method_version_assignment'"
  v. half a day's work.

Sean Barker
0117 302 8184
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Bodington [mailto:rob.bodington@eurostep.com] 
> Sent: 06 November 2007 06:31
> To: Peter Bergström; Barker, Sean (UK); plcs-dex@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [plcs-dex] Dissenting voice: Templates are a 
> waste of time.
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> HI Sean
> I would say that the primary motivation behind the templates 
> was to ensure/enforce consistent use of the PLCS model.
> As Peter points out, one area where we want to enforce this 
> is the use of reference data to provide the type of the 
> assignment, so I would not necessarily agree with the 
> statement "Templates are a waste of time"
> 
> Regards
> Rob
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Peter Bergström [mailto:peter.bergstrom@eurostep.com]
> > Sent: 02 November 2007 20:25
> > To: Barker, Sean (UK); plcs-dex@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Subject: RE: [plcs-dex] Dissenting voice: Templates are a 
> waste of time.
> > 
> > In fact, that is NOT what all assigning_ templates does, look at 
> > assigning_identification, asg_org and asg_ref_data for instance.
> > 
> > However, you have a point for those templates that ARE 
> similar to what 
> > you described. The reson they DO exist is that the role 
> assignment is 
> > important and must not be exchanged with the use of the 
> attribute "role"
> > (or whatever the name is). Therefore, I think there IS a 
> reason even 
> > for those very simple templates.
> > 
> > But maybe you could make your template a bit more functional if you 
> > added the Document_version and Document entities (at least) 
> to it? Or 
> > maybe the Representing_document template?
> > [The last paragraph said without remembering any details from the 
> > model, and without paying attention to any possible business needs, 
> > just as a tip...]
> > 
> > Peter
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Barker, Sean (UK) [mailto:Sean.Barker@baesystems.com]
> > Sent: den 2 november 2007 15:55
> > To: plcs-dex@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Subject: [plcs-dex] Dissenting voice: Templates are a waste of time.
> > 
> > 
> > I'm just writing a template for Task_method_version_assignment. 
> > Really, all it says is that you must classify the 
> assignment to define the role.
> > In fact, this is all any assignment template does, and, if 
> we need a 
> > template at all, it could simply take the target entity and 
> the select 
> > type pointed to as parameters. I therefore suggest we delete all the
> > assigning_* templates and have a single assignment template.
> > 
> > Sean Barker
> > 0117 302 8184
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