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Subject: RE: [public-sector-cloud-discuss] FW: Public Cloud Requirement
Neil Thanks for the quick and informative response. I'm sure John will be interested in this and will want to lift the lid on it all a bit more with you. I sense from what you've said it's not an unachievable requirement nowadays and in fact is something we should look to promote in our new TC? John -----Original Message----- From: public-sector-cloud-discuss@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:public-sector-cloud-discuss@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Neil McEvoy Sent: 23 August 2012 15:27 To: John Borras Cc: public-sector-cloud-discuss@lists.oasis-open.org; 'Wailing John (OCIO)' Subject: Re: [public-sector-cloud-discuss] FW: Public Cloud Requirement Hi Johns There's a couple of points to answer this. First and simplest yes there are vendors who do exactly that, they encapsulate your app into a virtual container so that you can migrate it to X Cloud provider. I can make some intros if you like. There are standards and common technologies relevant to this abstraction process, in particular JClouds: http://www.jclouds.org/. This is used by the Cloud Service Brokers to facilitate portability across the marketplace providers for example. With regards to achieving active-active app replication across multiple data centres as a result of this process, that's a bit trickier but again there are emerging vendors catering for this. We actually just published a paper on this specific topic, focusing on the Canadian imperative to address the downtime risks of their legacy estate that their Auditor General recently identified, see "Always On Digital Government": http://cloudbestpractices.net/2012/08/13/always-on-paper/ Kind regards, Neil. > Please see the note from John Wailing below. Does anyone have any > views or experience of the requirement that he has set out? Is it > something we could include within the scope of the new TC? I'm not > suggesting that the TC would come up with the technical answer to this > problem but more that it's yet another requirement to add to the list > that we are looking to produce. > > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wailing John (OCIO) [mailto:John.Wailing3@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk] > Sent: 23 August 2012 13:35 > To: Dee Schur > Cc: 'Jane Harnad'; 'Pim van der Eijk'; Ian Osborne; McDonagh Denise; > John Borras; Hartley Dominic > Subject: RE: Invitation to speak at International Cloud Symposium > > Thanks for the thought. I also find that it will be impossible to attend. > However, having spoken to John B, I increasingly see a need for > someone > (you) to get a grip on 'Cloud' standards/models. > > We seek the convenience, agility and economy of commoditising the > development and hosting of our big (line of business, transactional, > inherently reliable) systems. The trick seems to be to create the > application to run in some abstracted hosting environment (a container > of some description?) so that it can be hosted anywhere (probably in > at least two places running active-active with load sharing). At the > moment testing typically requires the developer to have at least one > environment and the hosting service to have a least 2, pre-prod and > prod. Some functional testing will always be needed but much of our > testing is centred on how the application will perform in the > production environment. Need to get away from this in times to come! I > have glossed over rather a lot but you will get the drift! > > > Regards > John > T: +44 (0) 20 7035 6683 M: +44 (0)780 3510072 Lorraine Tuitt > can fix slots in my diary: 020 7035 3490 > mailto:lorraine.tuitt@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk > Office of the Chief Information Officer, Financial and Corporate > Services Group, Home Office, 4th Floor SW Seacole Building, 2 Marsham > Street SW1P 4DF > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian Osborne [mailto:Ian.Osborne@Intellectuk.org] > Sent: 17 August 2012 18:40 > To: Dee Schur; McDonagh Denise; Wailing John (OCIO) > Cc: 'Jane Harnad'; 'Pim van der Eijk' > Subject: RE: Invitation to speak at International Cloud Symposium > > Dee, Apologies, I am unable to participate in this event owing to a > prior commitment. Ian > > Ian Osborne > ian.osborne@intellectuk.org > M:+44 7793 258219 > ________________________________________ > From: Dee Schur [dee.schur@oasis-open.org] > Sent: 17 August 2012 18:08 > To: 'McDonagh Denise'; Home Office, John Wailing; Ian Osborne > Cc: 'Jane Harnad'; 'Pim van der Eijk'; 'Dee Schur' > Subject: RE: Invitation to speak at International Cloud Symposium > > Hi Denise, John and Ian, > Do you have an update on your availability to speak at the > International Cloud Symposium? Please scroll down and have a peek at > all the policy makers that have already registered to attend, > http://www.eventbrite.com/event/4009281870?ref=ebtnebregn > > Please let me know if I can answer any questions -- I look forward to > your reply. > Regards, > dee > > Dee Schur > Senior Manager - Standards Advocate > OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society > http://www.oasis-open.org > +1.781.425.5073 x211 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dee Schur [mailto:dee.schur@oasis-open.org] > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 5:23 PM > To: 'McDonagh Denise'; 'john.wailing3@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk' > Cc: 'Jane Harnad'; 'Pim van der Eijk'; 'Ian.Osborne@intellectuk.org' > Subject: Invitation to speak at International Cloud Symposium > > Hi Denise and John, > We are featuring a session at the International Cloud Symposium (ICS), > https://www.oasis-open.org/events/cloud/2012, focused on Digital > Government to include discussions on G-Cloud and Cloud First > activities. > We would be grateful if either of you would consider presenting on the > G-Cloud topic during the first session, 10 October 2012, but we do > have flexibility if 11 October would suit you better. If this does not > work for either of you, please feel free to recommend a colleague. To > get an idea of the type of program we coordinate, please have a peek > at last year's ICS website held in the London area, > http://events.oasis-open.org/home/cloud/2011 > If you have any questions or would like more information, feel free to > contact me or Jane Harnad. I am looking forward to your reply. > Best regards, > dee > > > Dee Schur > Senior Manager - Standards Advocate > OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society > http://www.oasis-open.org > +1.781.425.5073 x211 > > > > ###################################################################### > ###### > ######### > This email message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and has > been cleared by MailMarshal > ###################################################################### > ###### > ######### > > > ********************************************************************** > This email and any files transmitted with it are private and intended > solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are > addressed. > If you have received this email in error please return it to the > address it came from telling them it is not for you and then delete it > from your system. > This email message has been swept for computer viruses. > > ********************************************************************** > > > The original of this email was scanned for viruses by the Government > Secure Intranet virus scanning service supplied by Cable&Wireless > Worldwide in partnership with MessageLabs. 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