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Subject: [regrep] Re: [ebxml-dev] RE: ebXML deliveries



I feel compelled to assert that "ebXML as a set of web services" should not be
some sort of global activity.

I believe that exporting ebXML defines services as web services should be the
purview of the technical committee that defines that ebXML specification and
understands its past, present ad future.

A case and point is that of the ebXML Registry service (ebRS). ebRS is defined
by the OASIS ebXML Registry TC and has defined the ebXML Registry service as a
web service for the OASIS ebXML Registry V2.0 specifications. This work is has
been approved by the TC and is currently being merged into the specs. The final
proposal that was approved may be found at:

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/regrep/200108/msg00050.html

As far as I know currently there are only two services in ebXML (ebXML Messaging
Service and ebXML Registry service). As mentioned Registry Service is already
defined as a web service. The OASIS ebXML Messaging Service TC may well decide
to provide a web service interface for it in the future.

So in summary, I do not see how/why "the new UN CEFACT electronic business
architecture group" should be "preparing a white paper on ebXML as a set of web
services". And indeed if they are for some very good reasons for doing so (that
I fail to see), then have the TCs that define the ebXML services specifications
been consulted?

--
Regards,
Farrukh

Duane Nickull wrote:

> Miguel:
>
> Unfortunately,  there are no "real" examples of BPD's or related
> transactions or related information models that are available which are
> "ebXML compliant".  Anyone that represents they have this is telling you
> a lie.
>
> As you are probably aware, ebXML has begun its' second phase in both
> UN/CEFACT and OASIS groups.
>
> As far as ebXML as Web Services or "web based",  the new UN CEFACT
> electronic business architecture group is preparing a white paper on
> ebXML as a set of web services.  I personally prepared the first draft
> of our white paper.
>
> There is also several groups working on preparing the real life examples
> you seek.
>
> In short ---  "Please stay tuned"
>
> Duane Nickull
> CTO, XML Global Technologies
> Chair, UN/CEFACT ebTWG Electronic Business Architecture
> Co-Chair/Chief editor, ebXML Technical Architecture PT
>
> Miguel Cruz Pic„o wrote:
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I've been looking around ebxml.org and reading all the superb specs but
> > miss to find "real" examples of Business Documents or Transactions for the
> > most common business processes. Can you point me out to some examples?
> >
> > Sorry for the retry.
> > TIA
> > Miguel
> >
> > Miguel Cruz Pic„o
> > mp@viatecla.pt
> >
> >
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