Re: [regrep] Update on Spec approval process

[Matthew MacKenzie <mattm@adobe.com>]

Farrukh,

I feel that you are rushing this too much.  You need to give some of us 
a breather to go back and make comments and make thoughtful suggestions.

I have not attended any of these review telecons because I felt that the 
process was being pushed way too hard.  You need to give reasonable time 
for those of us who are not full time on this standard.  I understand 
that you are anxious to move to the next release, however, I am much 
more interested in seeing a slow and stable release cycle with extremely 
well reviewed products at each release.

-Matt

Farrukh Najmi wrote:

> Dear TC members,
>
> I have been educating myself on the OASIS Standards Approval Process [1].
>
> I learned a few relevant an interesting points undre the current rules:
>
> 1. A TC *CAN* give TC Approved status to a spec by voice vote in a TC 
> telecon meeting. This can be done either by
>
> (a) roll call or
> (b) voice vote ("all those in favor..." etc.)
>
> followed by chair indicating his/her judgment that numbers were met 
> (sufficient "yes"s, and no more "nos" than rule permits)
> at which time members can accept that judgment or challenge the 
> conclusion (by asking for a roll call).
>
> 2. The same voting process is allowed for the vote to send a TC 
> APproved spec for public review.
>
> 3. Neither vote requires a electronic ballot or a 2 week period.
>
> 4. The current process allows the "TC Approval" vote and the "Send to 
> Public Review" vote to occur in the same TC telecon meeting.
>
> I have already validated my interpretation of [1] with my colleague 
> Eduardo Gutentag <eduardo.gutentag@sun.com> to make sure I did not 
> misunderstand anything.
>
> Being a pathelogical optmist I would like to propose that we make 
> every effort to have a very high turnout of TC members for tomorrow's 
> meeting so that we can have everyone's vote count if we choose to have 
> one or both votes tomorrow. Please do your best to attend and attend 
> on time. Thanks.
>
> [1] Standards Approval Process
> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.php#standards_approval
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject:
> Re: Question on spec approval process
> From:
> James Bryce Clark <jamie.clark@oasis-open.org>
> Date:
> Wed, 02 Feb 2005 15:26:41 -0800
> To:
> Farrukh Najmi <Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM>
>
> To:
> Farrukh Najmi <Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM>
>
>
>    Responses below.  Best regards  JBC
>
> At 02:43 PM 2/2/2005, Farrukh Najmi wrote:
>
>> Hi Jamie,
>> As I a sure you are already aware, the ebXML Registry 3.0 specs are 
>> nearing Committee Draft status.
>> I have the following question on the standards approval process [1]
>> -Can a TC give TC Approved status to a spec by voice vote in a TC 
>> telecon meeting (assuming necessary votes were met and duly recorded 
>> in TC meeting minutes) ?
>
>
>     Under current rules, yes.  If unanimous, minutes should say so and 
> note attendance.  If not, minutes should clearly reflect that the 
> necessary minimums were met. This can be done either by (a) roll call 
> or (b) voice vote ("all those in favor..." etc.) followed by chair 
> indicating his/her judgment that numbers were met (sufficient "yes"s, 
> and no more "nos" than rule permits) -- at which time members can 
> accept that judgment or challenge the conclusion (by asking for a roll 
> call).
>
>> - Once a spec is TC approved, can a TC decide to submit it for public 
>> review by voice vote in a TC telecon meeting (assuming necessary 
>> votes were met and duly recorded in TC meeting minutes) ?
>
>
>     Yes.
>
>> - Can the TC Approval vote, and the vote to send TC approved spec to 
>> public review, be conducted by 2 separate voice votes in the same TC 
>> telecon meeting ?
>
>
>     Yes.
>
>> My apologies in advance if some of these questions are covered by [1] 
>> already. If not you may consider clarifying in a future version. 
>> Thanks very much for your help.
>> [1] Standards Approval Process
>> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.php#standards_approval
>> -- 
>> Regards,
>> Farrukh
>
>
>
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