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Subject: Re: [regrep] Update on Spec approval process
As the Americans would say - feels like the bottom of the eight. Or as the English would say - we're into the final days' play here and we're not bowling anymore than 75 overs and that's your lot! DW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Farrukh Najmi" <Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM> To: <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [regrep] Update on Spec approval process > Matthew MacKenzie wrote: > > > Farrukh, > > > > I feel that you are rushing this too much. You need to give some of > > us a breather to go back and make comments and make thoughtful > > suggestions. > > > > I have not attended any of these review telecons because I felt that > > the process was being pushed way too hard. You need to give > > reasonable time for those of us who are not full time on this > > standard. I understand that you are anxious to move to the next > > release, however, I am much more interested in seeing a slow and > > stable release cycle with extremely well reviewed products at each > > release. > > > Fair comment Matt. Not every is able to spend the same amount of time on > this. > > I cant help thinking though, that: > > -The specs have been out for a month since draft 01 was published. We > received many good comments and have addressed them. At this point the > comments are drying out. > > -We have momentum now and the TC is energetically engaged. All we needs > is a joint push to deliver this baby. > > Of course whatever next steps we take will be decided as a team in > tomorrow's con call. > > As always, thanks for your candid feedback. > > > > -Matt > > > > Farrukh Najmi wrote: > > > >> Dear TC members, > >> > >> I have been educating myself on the OASIS Standards Approval Process > >> [1]. > >> > >> I learned a few relevant an interesting points undre the current rules: > >> > >> 1. A TC *CAN* give TC Approved status to a spec by voice vote in a TC > >> telecon meeting. This can be done either by > >> > >> (a) roll call or > >> (b) voice vote ("all those in favor..." etc.) > >> > >> followed by chair indicating his/her judgment that numbers were met > >> (sufficient "yes"s, and no more "nos" than rule permits) > >> at which time members can accept that judgment or challenge the > >> conclusion (by asking for a roll call). > >> > >> 2. The same voting process is allowed for the vote to send a TC > >> APproved spec for public review. > >> > >> 3. Neither vote requires a electronic ballot or a 2 week period. > >> > >> 4. The current process allows the "TC Approval" vote and the "Send to > >> Public Review" vote to occur in the same TC telecon meeting. > >> > >> I have already validated my interpretation of [1] with my colleague > >> Eduardo Gutentag <eduardo.gutentag@sun.com> to make sure I did not > >> misunderstand anything. > >> > >> Being a pathelogical optmist I would like to propose that we make > >> every effort to have a very high turnout of TC members for tomorrow's > >> meeting so that we can have everyone's vote count if we choose to > >> have one or both votes tomorrow. Please do your best to attend and > >> attend on time. Thanks. > >> > >> [1] Standards Approval Process > >> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.php#standards_approval > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >> Subject: > >> Re: Question on spec approval process > >> From: > >> James Bryce Clark <jamie.clark@oasis-open.org> > >> Date: > >> Wed, 02 Feb 2005 15:26:41 -0800 > >> To: > >> Farrukh Najmi <Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM> > >> > >> To: > >> Farrukh Najmi <Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM> > >> > >> > >> Responses below. Best regards JBC > >> > >> At 02:43 PM 2/2/2005, Farrukh Najmi wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Jamie, > >>> As I a sure you are already aware, the ebXML Registry 3.0 specs are > >>> nearing Committee Draft status. > >>> I have the following question on the standards approval process [1] > >>> -Can a TC give TC Approved status to a spec by voice vote in a TC > >>> telecon meeting (assuming necessary votes were met and duly recorded > >>> in TC meeting minutes) ? > >> > >> > >> > >> Under current rules, yes. If unanimous, minutes should say so > >> and note attendance. If not, minutes should clearly reflect that the > >> necessary minimums were met. This can be done either by (a) roll call > >> or (b) voice vote ("all those in favor..." etc.) followed by chair > >> indicating his/her judgment that numbers were met (sufficient "yes"s, > >> and no more "nos" than rule permits) -- at which time members can > >> accept that judgment or challenge the conclusion (by asking for a > >> roll call). > >> > >>> - Once a spec is TC approved, can a TC decide to submit it for > >>> public review by voice vote in a TC telecon meeting (assuming > >>> necessary votes were met and duly recorded in TC meeting minutes) ? > >> > >> > >> > >> Yes. > >> > >>> - Can the TC Approval vote, and the vote to send TC approved spec to > >>> public review, be conducted by 2 separate voice votes in the same TC > >>> telecon meeting ? > >> > >> > >> > >> Yes. > >> > >>> My apologies in advance if some of these questions are covered by > >>> [1] already. If not you may consider clarifying in a future version. > >>> Thanks very much for your help. > >>> [1] Standards Approval Process > >>> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.php#standards_approval > >>> -- > >>> Regards, > >>> Farrukh > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster > >> of the OASIS TC), go to > >> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/regrep/members/leave_workgroup.php. > >> > >> > > > > > -- > Regards, > Farrukh > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of the OASIS TC), go to http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/regrep/members/leave_workgroup.php. > > >
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