Draft Minutes of 2008-08-12 are attached

[Bob Freund <bob.freund@hitachisoftware.com>]

Title: SCA-Assy - 2008-08-12

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SCA-Assembly TC
Teleconference

12 AUG 2008

Attendees

Present

fred carter, (AmberPoint)

Mark Combellack, (Avaya, Inc.)

Dale Moberg, (Axway Software*)

Robert Freund, (Hitachi, Ltd.)

Eric Wells, (Hitachi, Ltd.)

Bryan Aupperle, (IBM)

Michael Beisiegel, (IBM)

David Booz, (IBM)

Graham Charters, (IBM)

Simon Holdsworth, (IBM)

Simon Nash, (IBM)

Jim Marino, (Individual)

Jeff Estefan, (Jet Propulsion Laboratory:*)

Martin Chapman, (Oracle Corporation)

Rich Levinson, (Oracle Corporation)

Ashok Malhotra, (Oracle Corporation)

Jeff Mischkinsky, (Oracle Corporation)

Sanjay Patil, (SAP AG*)

Plamen Pavlov, (SAP AG*)

Peter Walker, (Sun Microsystems)

Sabin Ielceanu, (TIBCO Software Inc.)

Scott Vorthmann, (TIBCO Software Inc.)

Chair

Martin Chapman

Scribe

Bob Freund

Agenda:

1. Opening
Introductions
Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing
2. Approval of minutes of SCA-Assembly TC meeting of 5th August
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/29022/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202008-08-05.pdf
3. Action Items:
2008-04-28-1: Editors to address the editorial comments contained in Combellack's comments at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200804/msg00089.html
2008-06-03-3: Simon Nash and Anish Karmarkar to develop a more concrete proposal for Issue 37 along the lines of the F2F discussion so that profitable discussion may continue this meeting.
2008-06-03-4: Chapman to propose some non-normative clarification test to resolve Issue-26 due=2008-12-24
2008-06-03-6: Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness
2008-07-08-1: Simon Nash - Review spec for areas that might benefit from illustration by the addition of pseudo-schema
2008-07-22-3: Karmarkar to send an E-mail with details of use case (re Issue 8 resolution)
2008-07-22-4: Booz to rewrite 11.2.1 to consider Simon N's use case (re Issue 8 resolution)
20080805-01: Owner=MikeE due=2008-08-12 Mike E to open discussion of ASSEMBLY-41 on E-mail list
20080805-02: Mike Edwards: Material for Issue Assembly-16 to be worked into a full formal resolution.
4. Assembly TC Schedule
A proposed schedule can be found here:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200808/msg00013.html
Proposal to set a higher bar for raising new issues, from 15th September 2008:
Proposed motion:
"From September 16th 2008, to raise a new issue in the Assembly TC follows exactly the same process
that is used for re-opening an issue, which is that it requires a 2/3 majority of all voting members to be accepted."
4. New Issues
ASSEMBLY-78 SCA Assembly requires an Annotation to indicate whether a forward operation in a bidirectional interface must carry a callback address
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-78
5. Existing Issues
ASSEMBLY-8 SCDL artifact resolution underspecified
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-8
Latest discussion and proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200807/msg00021.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200807/msg00027.html
ASSEMBLY-41 Conflicting domain-level deployments
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-41
Proposed update to the Issue:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200807/msg00029.html
Requires a writeup based on discussions at the F2F
ASSEMBLY-37 Need to clarify contents of an SCA Domain virtual composite
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-37
Waiting for a write-up based on discussions at the F2F meeting
ASSEMBLY-16 Component URI is not well described
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-16
Proposal requires write-up of 2 separate action items from the F2F
1) http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200807/msg00020.html
ASSEMBLY-33 Long-Running Request-Response Operations
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-33
6. AOB
Next meeting is on August 19th

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Contents

Topics

[1]  Opening

[2]  Action Items

[3]  Assembly TC Schedule

[4]  New Issues

[5]  New Issue ASSEMBLY-78 SCA Assembly requires an Annotation to indicate whether a forward operation in a bidirectional interface must carry a callback address http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-78

[6]  Pseudo-schema review

[7]  Existing issues

[8]  ASSEMBLY-8 SCDL artifact resolution underspecified
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-8

[9]  ASSEMBLY-41 Conflicting domain-level deployments
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-41

[10]  ASSEMBLY-37 Need to clarify contents of an SCA Domain virtual composite
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-37

[11]  ASSEMBLY-16 Component URI is not well described http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-16

[12]  AOB

Table of Resolutions

Table of Action Items

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Action Items

Old:

2008-04-28-1: id=2008-04-28-1 status=pending Editors to address the editorial comments contained in Combellack's comments at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200804/msg00089.html

2008-06-03-3: id=2008-06-03-3 status=pending Simon Nash and Anish Karmarkar to develop a more concrete proposal for Issue 37 along the lines of the F2F discussion so that profitable discussion may continue this meeting.

2008-06-03-4: id=2008-06-03-4 status=pending Chapman to propose some non-normative clarification test to resolve Issue-26 due=2008-12-24

2008-06-03-6: id=2008-06-03-6 status=pending Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness

2008-07-08-1: id=2008-07-08-1 status=done Simon Nash - Review spec for areas that might benefit from illustration by the addition of pseudo-schema

2008-07-22-3: id=2008-07-22-3 status=pending Karmarkar to send an E-mail with details of use case (re Issue 8 resolution)

2008-07-22-4: id=2008-07-22-4 status=pending Booz to rewrite 11.2.1 to consider Simon N's use case (re Issue 8 resolution)

2008-08-05-1: id=2008-08-05-1 status=pending Owner=MikeE due=2008-08-12 Mike E to open discussion of ASSEMBLY-41 on E-mail list

2008-08-05-2: id=2008-08-05-2 status=pending Mike Edwards: Material for Issue Assembly-16 to be worked into a full formal resolution.

New:

2008-08-12-1: chairs to coordinate milestones with the liaison committee

2008-08-12-2: Nash to prepare a list of such location for use by the editors.

2008-08-12-3: Edwards to incorporate the concepts included in the referenced emails for a concrete proposal to close Assembly-16

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Resolutions

• 2008-08-12-1: m:Nash s:Marino Close New Issue Assembly-78 as rejected

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Minutes

Scribe: Bob Freund

Opening

 

Roll - quorate with 17 of 25 voting members present

 

Agenda - agreed w/o

Action Items

Action: id=2008-04-28-1 status=pending Editors to address the editorial comments contained in Combellack's comments at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200804/msg00089.html

Action: id=2008-06-03-3 status=pending Simon Nash and Anish Karmarkar to develop a more concrete proposal for Issue 37 along the lines of the F2F discussion so that profitable discussion may continue this meeting.

Action: id=2008-06-03-4 status=pending Chapman to propose some non-normative clarification test to resolve Issue-26 due=2008-12-24

Action: id=2008-06-03-6 status=pending Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness

Action: id=2008-07-08-1 status=done Simon Nash - Review spec for areas that might benefit from illustration by the addition of pseudo-schema

Action: id=2008-07-22-3 status=pending Karmarkar to send an E-mail with details of use case (re Issue 8 resolution)

Action: id=2008-07-22-4 status=pending Booz to rewrite 11.2.1 to consider Simon N's use case (re Issue 8 resolution)

Action: id=2008-08-05-1 status=pending Owner=MikeE due=2008-08-12 Mike E to open discussion of ASSEMBLY-41 on E-mail list

Action: id=2008-08-05-2 status=pending Mike Edwards: Material for Issue Assembly-16 to be worked into a full formal resolution.

Assembly TC Schedule

<Martin C>

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200808/msg00013.html

 

Above link points to a set of proposed milestones

 

Concerns were voiced about the degree of realism in the "all issues resolved" date, the number of open issues and the issue resolution rate

 

There is a concern about the amount of time allowed for resolving issues that arrive in the first public review

 

Members wondered what was to happen in June. A suggestion to go to the beach was well received.

Action: chairs to coordinate milestones with the liaison committee

New Issues

New Issue ASSEMBLY-78 SCA Assembly requires an Annotation to indicate whether a forward operation in a bidirectional interface must carry a callback address http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-78

 

Nash channels Edwards to explain the issue

Motion: m:Nash s:Marino Close New Issue Assembly-78 as rejected

 

Aye 9 Nay 5 Present 5 motion passes

Resolution: m:Nash s:Marino Close New Issue Assembly-78 as rejected

<Martin C>

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/200808/msg00017.html

Pseudo-schema review

 

Nash reviews his review of Appendix A

 

There are several points throughout the spec however that several places where pseudo schema have been described as schemas or schema snippets

Action: Nash to prepare a list of such location for use by the editors.

Existing issues

ASSEMBLY-8 SCDL artifact resolution underspecified
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-8

 

discussion deferred due to pending action

ASSEMBLY-41 Conflicting domain-level deployments
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-41

 

deferred due to pending action

ASSEMBLY-37 Need to clarify contents of an SCA Domain virtual composite
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-37

 

deferred due to pending action

ASSEMBLY-16 Component URI is not well described http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-16

 

Nash discusses the last email on this topic offered by Edwards.

 

ref http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200807/msg00020.html

 

ref http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200807/msg00039.html

Action: Edwards to incorporate the concepts included in the referenced emails for a concrete proposal to close Assembly-16

AOB

 

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