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Subject: Re: [sca-assembly] Groups - sca-assembly-1.1-spec-wd061.doc (sca-assembly-1.1-spec-wd061.doc) uploaded

A related question on the references.

For the Bindings TC, we've had normative references point to a specific dated version of a specification.  We don't appear to have done that for some of the references from the assembly spec:

For example: WSI-BP - references http://www.ws-i.org/deliverables/workinggroup.aspx?wg=basicprofile instead of http://ws-i.org/Profiles/BasicProfile-1.2-2010-11-09.html

Perhaps that's a bad example, because it appears the reference is now spurious (no text matches to "WSI-BP"), although I do see one reference in section 6.1 (line 2532).

For all of the OASIS hosted standards, I see that wsbinding references assembly with http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-cd05.pdf, whereas the assembly spec only includes a "version free" URL reference.  I'm thinking we might have resolved to do this as a way to get out of the hopeless entanglement of versions of the SCA specs, but maybe I'm mistaken?

For the W3C specs, it appears that all of the normative references are to the "latest" copies, rather than the specific revisions (WSDL11, XML-INFOSET, WSDL11_Identifiers).

Maybe my PDF searching is failing me, but the following aren't used:
  • JAX-WS
  • WSI-BP (not used, but should be, but then could be non-normative)
  • WS-BPEL (not used, but should be, and non-normative at that)
  • SCA-C-Client
  • XML-INFOSET (not used, only reference to infoset appears in the introduction, but perhaps should still reference)

These probably don't need to be normative:
  • SDO
  • SCA-CPP-Client
General question - shouldn't these references be listed in alphabetical order?

Before I raise an issue on this, I thought I'd send this email to see if I'm missing something, but it seems to break into several points:
  • References not listed alphabetically
  • References identified, but then not used, even when they should be (WS-BPEL, XML-INFOSET)
  • References identified, but doesn't appear that they're needed
  • Normative references identify links to versions that can change over time
At least on the last point, can anyone confirm whether they see this as a problem?  Anyone see the other bullet points as a problem?


On 1/5/11 8:15 AM, Bryan Aupperle wrote:
OFD9887796.7FDCAB33-ON8525780F.0058AB60-8525780F.00594EB4@us.ibm.com" type="cite">Any reason not to update the other SCA spec references to the latest drafts:
POJO - CSD 3 (Nov. 2010)
CAA - CSD 5 (Nov. 2010)
Policy - CD 4 (Sep. 2010)
JMS Binding - CSD 5 (Nov. 2010)
C++ C&I - CD 6 (Oct. 2010)
C C&I - CD 6 (Oct. 2010)

Admittedly this could be done at CS time via Designated Cross References, but why wait?

Bryan Aupperle, Ph.D.
STSM, WebSphere Enterprise Platform Software Solution Architect
WW Center of Excellence for Enterprise Systems & Banking Center of Excellence Application Integration Architect

Research Triangle Park,  NC
+1 919-254-7508 (T/L 444-7508)
Internet Address: aupperle@us.ibm.com

From:        mike_edwards@uk.ibm.com
To:        sca-assembly@lists.oasis-open.org
Date:        01/04/2011 09:39 AM
Subject:        [sca-assembly] Groups - sca-assembly-1.1-spec-wd061.doc (sca-assembly-1.1-spec-wd061.doc)   uploaded

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