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Subject: Re: [sca-assembly] NEW ISSUE: (1.2) Must a global domain channelbe deployed before it can be used?


Hi Peter,

On 1/31/11 10:02 AM, Peter Niblett wrote:
OF763B6028.75E4C560-ON80257829.0060B0A2-80257829.006323A6@uk.ibm.com" type="cite">Eric

You said..

Neither of the above indicate whether or not the global domain channel
can be used before it is referenced.


Ah yes, the joys of a muddled brain on Monday morning.  You're correct - the question is whether or not the global domain channel can be used before it is *created* via a contribution.

Thanks for catching my circularity.

-Eric.
OF763B6028.75E4C560-ON80257829.0060B0A2-80257829.006323A6@uk.ibm.com" type="cite">
I'm not sure how you can "use" a channel without referencing it (I assume "reference" means "wire to/from"), but I think the question you are asking is the one in the title - "can you reference a channel that hasn't been defined to the SCA assembly?". I  think this is one place where the current spec is clear.. you can't reference a domain channel that hasn't been defined.

So it looks as though your issue is to say that we should change the spec to say that it permits (in fact requires) autocreation of domain channels.  Presumably these channels would have to be created with default attributes (though I know you think they shouldn't have attributes at all).

Regards

Peter Niblett
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From:        Eric Johnson <eric@tibco.com>
To:        OASIS SCA Assembly <sca-assembly@lists.oasis-open.org>
Date:        31/01/2011 17:19
Subject:        [sca-assembly] NEW ISSUE: (1.2) Must a global domain channel be deployed before it can be used?




Title: Must a global domain channel be deployed before it can be used?

Target: Assembly 1.2 WD 03

Description:

Via the "@target" and "@source" attributes defined on a consumer &
producer, the assembler can reference global domain channels.

In section 5.8, the presumed to be normative text reads "SCA runtimes
MUST support the use of domain channels [ASM????]."  That is followed by:

"To create a Domain Channel, deploy a composite containing a channel
directly to the SCA Domain (i.e., do not use that composite as the
implementation of some component in the Domain)."

Neither of the above indicate whether or not the global domain channel
can be used before it is referenced.

Proposal:

General theme: do not require the global domain channel to exist before
it can be used.

Specific text (needs refinement?):

In section 5.8, Paragraph #2, append:

When contributing artifacts to a domain that contain references to
global domain channels that have not been created, the SCA runtime MUST
automatically create said global domain channels, and cannot reject such
contributions [ASM????].



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