Draft minutes from 2011-06-28 are attached

[Bob Freund <bob.freund@hitachisoftware.com>]

Title: SCA-Assy - 2011-06-28

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OASIS SCA-Assembly TC

28 JUN 2011

Attendees

Present

Robert Freund	Hitachi, Ltd.	Group Member
Eric Wells	Hitachi, Ltd.	Group Member
Bryan Aupperle	IBM	Group Member
David Booz	IBM	Group Member
Mike Edwards	IBM	Group Member
Peter Niblett	IBM	Group Member
Jim Marino	Individual	Group Member
Jeff Estefan	Jet Propulsion Laboratory:*	Group Member
Martin Chapman	Oracle	Group Member
Anish Karmarkar	Oracle	Group Member
Ashok Malhotra	Oracle	Group Member
Jeff Mischkinsky	Oracle	Group Member
Gilbert Pilz	Oracle	Group Member
Plamen Pavlov	SAP AG*	Group Member
Eric Johnson	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member

Chair

Mike Edwards

Scribe

Bob Freund

Agenda:

1. Intro

Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing

2. Approval of minutes of previous SCA-Assembly TC meeting

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/42705/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202011-06-21.html

3. Action Items

id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
id=2011-01-04-2 status=pending Edwards to write a new proposal for the resolution of Assembly-246 along the lines contained in wsra

4. TC Administrivia

a)
Consider cancelling the TC meeting for July 5 due to impact of US July 4 holiday on attendance.

b)
LOA request for Eric Johnson

5. Proposal for SCA 1.2 CSD01

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201106/msg00007.html

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/42415/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd05.zip


10. 1.2 Specification Open Issues (1.2)

ASSEMBLY-253: Add Autocreation of Channels to SCA Assembly 1.2
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-253

Latest discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201102/msg00056.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201102/msg00055.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201102/msg00054.html


ASSEMBLY-227: Promotion of consumers and producers undermines composability
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-227

Proposal
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201004/msg00044.html
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37273/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01-issue-227.pdf
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37272/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01-issue-227.doc

Latest discussions:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00023.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00022.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00021.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00020.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00019.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00017.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201012/msg00016.html


ASSEMBLY-235: Remotable interface compatibility should not be restricted to a WSDL 1.1 mapping
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-235

Latest discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201102/msg00079.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201102/msg00078.html


ASSEMBLY-233: Define how Policy works for SCA Eventing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-233

No Proposal

ASSEMBLY-243: Is the default channel configurable?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-243

No proposal

ASSEMBLY-244: How to enable extensibility to multiple bindings on a channel
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-244

Outline proposal in JIRA

ASSEMBLY-245: Adopt the WS-RA Event Description specification to declare SCA Event Types
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-245

Proposal in JIRA

ASSEMBLY-246: Provide Location within SCA Contributions for eventType Declarations
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-246

Proposal in JIRA

ASSEMBLY-257: Global domain channels creation inconsistent with pattern established by definitions.xml
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-257

Skeleton proposal in JIRA


ASSEMBLY-247: What are the requirements on an SCA Binding for eventing purposes?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-247

No proposal

ASSEMBLY-248: RFC2119 wording and conformance statement need to be added for event processing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-248

No proposal


10. AOB

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Contents

Topics

[1]  Opening

[2]  Action Items

[3]  Administrivia

[4]  Proposal for SCA 1.2 CSD01

[5]  Issue discussion

[6]  ASSEMBLY-253: Add Autocreation of Channels to SCA Assembly 1.2 http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-253

[7]  ASSEMBLY-235: Remotable interface compatibility should not be restricted to a WSDL 1.1 mapping http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-235

[8]  AOB

Table of Resolutions

Table of Action Items

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Action Items

Pending:

id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227

id=2011-01-04-2 status=pending Edwards to write a new proposal for the resolution of Assembly-246 along the lines contained in wsra

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Resolutions

• 2011-06-28-1: Minutes of 2011-06-21 accepted with the correction of the lacuna after the word "specification" should be "specification."
• 2011-06-28-2: meeting of July 5 2011 is canceled w/o
• 2011-06-28-3: Eric Johnson's LOA request is aproved w/o

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Minutes

Scribe: Bob Freund

Opening

Roll - 10 of 17 voting members present

Agenda - agreed

<anish>

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201106/msg00053.html

<jeff.mischkinsky>

m:Freund s:Estefan The Concrete Exit Criteria for the SCA Assembly V1.1 specification are that there shall be at least 2 independent SCA runtimes each of which are compliant with all normative portions of the specification as described in Section 12.2 of the SCA Assembly V1.1 specification w/o

Resolution: Minutes of 2011-06-21 accepted with the correction of the lacuna after the word "specification" should be "specification."

Action Items

Action: id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227

Action: id=2011-01-04-2 status=pending Edwards to write a new proposal for the resolution of Assembly-246 along the lines contained in wsra

Administrivia

Edwards:

Meeting of July 5, shall we cancel?

Resolution: meeting of July 5 2011 is canceled w/o

<Mike Edwards>

b) LOA Request from Eric Johnson

<Mike Edwards>

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201106/msg00050.html

Resolution: Eric Johnson's LOA request is aproved w/o

Proposal for SCA 1.2 CSD01

Anish:

I began the work of incorporating the WS-RA EVD spec into ours

 

...hopes to be able to send out something by end of the day as a potential basis for CSD01

 

...it was based on WD05 with changes incorporated

Edwards asks folks to review and comment on the new draft when it arrives

Issue discussion

ASSEMBLY-253: Add Autocreation of Channels to SCA Assembly 1.2 http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-253

Johnson speaks to the issue

Edwards notes that there does not as yet exist a detailed proposal

<Eric Johnson>

Eric moves to resolve assembly 253 along the direction of having a default behavior of allowing auto-deployment, and providing an option for a composite to disable auto-deployment.

Motion: m:Johnson resolve assembly 253 along the direction of having a default behavior of allowing auto-deployment, and providing an option for a composite to disable auto-deployment.

motion dies due to lack of a second

Motion: m:Johnson Close Assembly-253 with no action

<EricW>

I think it's been so long since we discussed these issues that we need some timt to page stuff back in

Wells points out that there has been no discussion since February and some time might be valuable to refresh memories

ASSEMBLY-235: Remotable interface compatibility should not be restricted to a WSDL 1.1 mapping http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-235

<Mike Edwards>

This is the language in the current spec:

<Mike Edwards>

6.for checking the compatibility of 2 remotable interfaces which are in different interface languages, both are mapped to WSDL 1.1 (if not already WSDL 1.1) and compatibility checking is done between the WSDL 1.1 mapped interfaces.

For checking the compatibility of 2 local interfaces which are in different interface languages, the method of checking compatibility is defined by the specifications which define those interface types, which must define mapping rules for the 2 interface types concerned.

<Mike Edwards>

in section 6.2.1

Edwards:

This issue will be brought forth for resolution at the next call

AOB

Edwards:

Mischkinsky's email at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201106/msg00053.html

Mischkinsky:

I feel that the exit criteria is only done half way since it does not discuss the way that impls are found to be acceptable

Johnson: no matter what tests are proposed, it will come down to a vote by the tc to accept the evidence provided or not

straggler roll

adjourned

<jeff.mischkinsky>

@eric: its not the specificity - its that there is no statement about demonstrating interop/portability

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