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Subject: Raw minutes 2008-05-22
[8:06] anish: Scibe: Danny [8:06] anish: scribeNice: Danny [8:06] anish: Agenda: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/event.php?event_id=16255 [8:06] anish: Scribe: Danny [8:06] anish: ScribeNick: Danny [8:08] Danny: Waiting for quorum. Agenda pre-bashed. [8:09] Danny: Topic AI#21: Sanjay will followup [8:09] Danny: Topic: Issue 16. [8:10] Danny: Still waiting for proposal from Dieter [8:10] Danny: Topic: JIRA Status [8:10] Danny: 3 issues have been updated but not resolved. Michael not on call [8:10] Danny: Topic: Status of spec. [8:11] Danny: Dieter not on call. Status of resolved issues not known. [8:11] Danny: Action: Najeeb to take action to coordinate editors to reflect updated issues [8:12] Danny: Topic: Issue 15 [8:12] Danny: Discussion ran out of time last week [8:13] Danny: But we're not quorate right now [8:16] Mike Edwards: I am on the call now if that helps [8:16] Danny: We are now quorate [8:17] Danny: Topic: Approval of minutes [8:17] Danny: Updated minutes have been sent including the roll. Sent out yesterday. [8:17] Danny: Motion: Approve minutes of May 15, 2008 [8:18] Danny: Approved unanimoulsy [8:18] Martin C: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200803/msg00000.html [8:18] Danny: s/unanimoulsy/unanimously/ [8:18] Danny: Topic: Issue 15 [8:19] Danny: Martin: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200803/msg00000.html [8:26] Danny: Motion: Adopt conformance targets identified in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200803/msg00000.html [8:26] Danny: motion made by Martin Chapman, 2nd from Mike Edwards [8:26] Danny: Motion approved unanimously [8:27] Danny: Martin: Motion resolves and closes issue 15 [8:28] Danny: Martin: No editing needed, this is just language to use when using RFC 2119 language [8:29] Danny: Motion: Martine moves to resolve issue 15 and instruct editors to insert the definitions from the previous motion [8:29] Danny: s/Martine/Martin/ [8:30] Danny: 2nd by Mike Edwards [8:30] Danny: motion approved unanimously [8:30] Danny: Topic: Issue 18 [8:31] Danny: Anish: This is something that the editors need to take on and bring back to TC. No need for TC to debate this open-endedly [8:32] Danny: Action: Najeeb to coordinate editors to pick a "meaty" section, rewrite it in RFC 2119, bring back to TC for discussion [8:33] Danny: s/"meaty"/"chunky"/ [8:33] Mike Edwards: said with feeling, Martin [8:34] Danny: Topic: Issue 16 [8:34] Danny: Anish to prod Dieter for a proposal [8:34] Danny: Topic: AOB [8:35] Danny: Mike Edwards: We should lay down algorithm for determining service or reference (recall discussion from last week) [8:36] Danny: Mike Edwards: Need to raise issue [8:37] anish: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-5 [8:43] Danny: Mike Rowley: Stating that a static analysis *can* perform the algorithm was assumed to be enough. Hoping that Mike Edwards would point out inconsistency in that assumption. [8:43] Danny: Mike Edwards: It wasn't clear to me when I wrote the code that there weren't other choices. [8:44] Danny: Mike Edwards: Then let's put the algorithm (that I used) in the spec [8:45] Danny: Mike Rowley: One of the values of leaving it specified abstractly is that it is extensible to BPEL extensions. [8:45] Danny: Mike Rowley: e.g. BPEL 4 Subprocesses [8:45] Danny: Mike Edwards: Is it testable? [8:46] Danny: Martin: I think the algorithm is pretty clear [8:48] anish i see u michaelR, want to let a little bit of back and forth [8:49] Danny: Michael Rowley: I think the issue of testability is an important one. Would both statements be tested the same way? [8:50] Danny: Michael Rowley: Would the introduction of a specific algorithm change the way we test for it? [8:51] Danny: Anish: We'll put this on the agenda along with Issue 15 [8:51] Danny: Anish: Any other business? |
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